You're one to talk. Lol. I don't have a problem with what he said, although I'm not a Muslim.
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I stopped taking my psych meds.
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SabahTheLoner
Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
Couple of reasons. Some people react strongly to some types of medicine but not others, it depends on the ingredients. Also psychology is a very complex field of study. Misdiagnosis or chemical differences in the brain could be all it takes to create an undesirable side effect.
They have to put the warning on the bottle because some anti depressant users get suicidal, that doesn't mean the anti depressant necessarily caused the suicidal thoughts, they may well have been suicidal anyway. Overall an effective anti depressant treatment that agrees with the user (finding the right meds) should reduce suicidal thoughts by alleviating the depression, if your anti depressant is not doing that it probably not the right one for you, but that doesn't mean there are not other anti depressants that might help. (some of which are also anti seizure medications, like depakote and neurontin)
Mohsen
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
They would not be seeking help if they were truly suicidal.
Also - explain Seroxat. That actually caused many teenagers who were just depressed and non suicidal to actually commit suicide.
Peace
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
What an outstanding paragraph, the first time I have ever seen this angle.
It just 'clicked' as I read it.
Lyndon that is nonsense....these guys are not just stoners, they are as "trained" as any other professional person that makes it their business to gain knowledge of something they are passionate about. I would trust them way more than I would trust the pushers of pharmaceutical poison.
Wrong, there is no formal training or certificate required to run or work in a medical marijuana dispensary, some may be trained some may be complete BS, there is no regulation by the government, and the strength of the product is entirely unregulated, one "dose" you buy one week might be twice as strong the next week, and when the run out of High CBD low THC pot they might just sell you the regular THC type, there's nothing to stop them, its not even illegal, get real, you're promoting putting your life it the hands of quacks.
Australia is in the process of legalizing medical marijuana, but they're not going to be making the same mistakes, the production and distribution of the medical marijuana are int he hands of and regulated by the government medical bodies.
Not true. Sometimes you are leaning towards killing yourself but there's a part of you that wants to live, no matter how small. Even during suicide attempts or just before attempting it, a person could still be stopped if talked out of it. It would be incredibly hard to find a person with zero will to live, after all. Humans are wired to want to survive. That's why you get suicidal people who are afraid to attempt it, for example. There's that self-preservation instinct that's very hard to overcome.
Mohsen
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Agree to disagree. There's different ways of looking at it.
Mohsen
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Truly suicidal people, tend to actually kill themselves, the rest seek help! Yes, I agree to disagree with you on this.
Peace!
Now I know that you are talking nonsense. In Australia, the push to get MC legalized has hit snag after frustrating snag.
Doctors are ill informed and politicians are dictated to by the powers behind the drug companies, which makes them puppets for the orthodox medical system that prevents any "non-authorized" treatments from ever being prescribed. What does "non-authorized" mean? It means anything that might make people well, but that won't make them any money.
Big pharma is about treatments, not cures.
People are still being arrested for giving black market MC to their epileptic children despite the documented evidence that it works better than anything the drug companies have to offer. Going from 100's a seizures a day to none is pretty convincing evidence, wouldn't you say? Can you think of a single reason to withhold it....other than a desire to stop it helping people by going off their horrid side effect ridden poison? One mother here in Australia has had her disabled son taken off her because she had him on MC and it was working better than anything he had been prescribed by doctors. He had terrible reactions to those drugs but they put him straight back on them in hospital. This is unconscionable!
MD's can lose their licence for recommending any treatment that involves "natural" or "complimentary medicine".
If drug companies cannot extract a component of a healing plant and synthesize it so that they can take out a patent, they will not "authorize" it. They cannot patent a plant. No money without the patent.
The evidence is there for all to see, but the medical profession will not listen because they are completely indoctrinated by big pharma and intimidated by the threat of losing their licence and their livelihood. You have no idea how corrupt this system is....
No, I would rather you be more balanced in your statements. Not everyone will have your experience, in fact not many at all. You may have an adverse reaction to cannabis....people have peanut allergies too but not everyone should stop eating peanuts because of it.
As I recall you have a family member who is in the medical profession, so I am wondering if the orthodox medical approach has more to do with family loyalty in your case than actual research into the value of medicinal cannabis especially for kids with intractable epilepsy. Would you deny them a life saving medicine just because you can't take it?
It has to do with having heart disease and diabetes, not to mention hyperhythroidism, nothing to do with having "friends in the medical profession" except for the doctors that saved my life!! I don't care if kids take CBD for seizures, but advocating pot as a treatment for mental illness is ludicrous, so many studies and doctor's warning against it.
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Although these pills don't help your condition,going cold turkey isn't the best solution,you need to be weaned off of them,there can be consequences otherwise.
I hope you find an alternative that helps whatever it is.
In places where medicinal cannabis is legal, there are dispensaries that are manned by experts in the medicinal effects of all strains of MC. They are just like any other pharmacy dispensing drugs, except that these ones have little to no side effects and are not addictive. Anyone can have adverse effects from substances that are incompatible with their system, but at least MC is a drug that has never been known to kill anyone from an overdose. There are various strains for different medical conditions.
The orthodox medical profession are trained by the system that produces the drugs that kill more people every year that MC ever has. It's time for the truth to be told....and the vested interests exposed.
We need doctors brave enough to educate themselves without the restraints placed on them by the system who trains them to remain ignorant and locked into a pharmaceutical drug pushing mentality. The legal drugs are the most deadly.
We need good quality scientific research to validate the effectiveness of any medication including MC and to review the risks. If the evidence supports it, then I'm all for it.
Standard cannabis has been well researched over the years and has been associated with a variety of negative psychological problems and no proven mental heath benefits to my knowledge. If you have scientific evidence to the contrary then I'll happily consider it.
Its a well known side effect of antidepressant medication that for a small minority of people, especially those with a lot of anxiety, they can feel worse for the first one to two weeks while they are getting used to the medications. Sometimes its trial and error to get the right medication for each patient.
How much research have you done into the benefits verses side effects of MC as opposed to the benefits verses the side effects of pharma drugs Adrian? Ask any parent of a child with intractable epilepsy who uses MC after years of failed pharma drugs and their side effects, to see the success stories....there are too many to be co-incidental. Charlotte Figgy is a good case in point. Charlotte's Web is named in her honor.
Marijuana stops child's severe seizures - CNN
We often hear this from the medical fraternity..."no proven health benefits" when in fact there is more than enough proof in the successful treatment of many illnesses using MC, where pharma drugs have failed to give any substantial relief but have been responsible for awful side effects to deal with as well. Making children who are already sick, suffer more is unconscionable....yet this is what routinely happens.
Here was one site I found....It covers a wide variety of medical uses for MC.
Specifically for psychiatric disorders it says....
Psychiatric Symptoms
An improvement of mood in reactive depression has been observed in several clinical studies with THC. There are additional case reports claiming benefit of cannabinoids in other psychiatric symptoms and diseases, such as sleep disorders, anxiety disorders, bipolar disorders, and dysthymia. Various authors have expressed different viewpoints concerning psychiatric syndromes and cannabis. While some emphasize the problems caused by cannabis, others promote the therapeutic possibilities. Quite possibly cannabis products may be either beneficial or harmful, depending on the particular case. The attending physician and the patient should be open to a critical examination of the topic, and a frankness to both possibilities.
Medical Uses of Cannabis and THC
The problem, I believe, is that there seems to be a great resistance on the part of orthodox medicine to give cannabis a fair trial. It would seem as if there has been some dirty work afoot for decades in trying to keep cannabis out of reach for very sinister reasons. This plant has been demonized for many years, gaining a reputation for which there is no basis in fact.
If that proves to be true that MC was hidden for disgusting financial motives, then the medical profession has been complicit in prolonging the suffering of generations of people who could have benefited from the use of MC for the last 70 years!
It is making people very angry as they are now starting to smell a very dirty old rat.
You may be interested in this bit of background information....
William Randolph Hearst to the Devastating Marijuana Prohibition
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The problem is your evidence relies on anecdote and I can see no references to reputable scientific studies.
With any medication there is always a large placebo affect and thats why we need randomised control trials to take that into account. Any medical researcher or doctor knows this.
There are established and proven methods for proving the effectiveness and risks of any medication. We need to provide the same standards for testing MC as we do any other drug.