If all world people turn atheists.

[chinu]

Build hospitals and schools instead of places of worship.

Why not cinemas and shopping-centers ?

 

[Messianic Israelite]

And with close to 50,000 different sects of christianity all with different opinions and around 4200 different religions all with different opinions di you think religious wars don't happen?
Please feel free to provide a list of wars caused by atheism throughout history and provide you with a list of wars where one side ot both were fighting to impose their religion onto the other side




Actually looking at the figures no its not a serious error.



In your opinion,



Again, in your opinion

Hi ChristineM. Good afternoon. The world is becoming more atheistic, as a result of this trend, I am sure it is simply a matter of time before we see wars from atheists. In the past, I would say from about 50 years ago, most people had at least some religious belief. The Beast of Revelation, which will come about before the close of the age of man, certainly sounds atheistic (see Revelation 13:6).

 

[ChristineM]

Hi ChristineM. Good afternoon. The world is becoming more atheistic, as a result of this trend, I am sure it is simply a matter of time before we see wars from atheists. In the past, I would say from about 50 years ago, most people had at least some religious belief. The Beast of Revelation, which will come about before the close of the age of man, certainly sounds atheistic (see Revelation 13:6).

I doubt it, atheism has nothing to fight for, every one of us disbelieves there is a god. Fighting for any other reason is nothing ti do with atheism.

I sure you believe your beastie is atheist. However if you read the bible you find it is a god believer.

However feel free to make up whatever you want to dis atheism with if it makes you feel better

 

[Messianic Israelite]

I doubt it, atheism has nothing to fight for, every one of us disbelieves there is a god. Fighting for any other reason is nothing ti do with atheism.

I sure you believe your beastie is atheist. However if you read the bible you find it is a god believer.

However feel free to make up whatever you want to dis atheism with if it makes you feel better

Hi ChristineM. I disagree.

Some reasons why people go to war are listed below:

• Economic Gain.
• Territorial Gain. ...
• Religion. ...
• Nationalism. ...
• Revenge. ...
• Civil War. ...
• Revolutionary War. ...
• Defensive War.

Religion is just one of those reasons. In any case, the general idea held by most people today is that seemingly religion is a problem and should be eliminated. Atheists could indeed war to eliminate religion. There's such hostility towards religion carried by some atheists that I suspect this is only a matter of time.

 

[ChristineM]

Hi ChristineM. I disagree.

Some reasons why people go to war are listed below:

• Economic Gain.
• Territorial Gain. ...
• Religion. ...
• Nationalism. ...
• Revenge. ...
• Civil War. ...
• Revolutionary War. ...
• Defensive War.

Religion is just one of those reasons. In any case, the general idea held by most people today is that seemingly religion is a problem and should be eliminated. Atheists could indeed war to eliminate religion. There's such hostility towards religion carried by some atheists that I suspect this is only a matter of time.

No atheism then... Ok

Why would atheists want to eliminate religion when its, doing such a great job of eliminating itself

You are showing a bigotry that doesn't syand up to scrutiny

 

[Messianic Israelite]

No atheism then... Ok

Why would atheists want to eliminate religion when its, doing such a great job of eliminating itself

You are showing a bigotry that doesn't syand up to scrutiny

Hi ChristineM. Bigotry? Perhaps. Perhaps I've heard too many arguments over the years from atheists wanting to get rid of religion like this one: Atheism Should End Religion, Not Replace It - NYTimes.com
There's an attempt going on right now from the left to remove the Bible as much as possible from the lives of the people.

 

[ChristineM]

Hi ChristineM. Bigotry? Perhaps. Perhaps I've heard too many arguments over the years from atheists wanting to get rid of religion like this one: Atheism Should End Religion, Not Replace It - NYTimes.com
There's an attempt going on right now from the left to remove the Bible as much as possible from the lives of the people.

So the core message of "love thy neighbour" is just unadulterated crap. Ok, i understand.

And you offer an opinion piece that in no way represents the vast majority of atheists.

Why are you associating "the left" with atheists... Sure some are left, some middle, some right and some apolitical

If youve been keeping up with the news the thought of removing the bible is a back lash to counter the deliberate dumming down of schools, banning books, limiting education only to wholesome biblical subjects, dont mention gay or LGBT etc that is occurring in America right now.

Basically its a case of people not enjoying being crapped on by the religious right. Sorry you don't like it

 

[Heyo]

I've seen it thousand times. And invariably the 'God' they speak of is money, or sex or drugs, etc.

I'm an atheist. I'm right here. What's my God?

Or, perhaps, is there a chance that this doesn't relate to real people at all, and is merely a way to denigrate a group without evidence or commitment?

I STRONGLY suspect the latter.
It's insulting.

Nah, it isn't insulting (except insulting my intelligence). It is embarrassing to the one using the argument. A tu quoque where you admit that having a god is a bad thing? A comparison of money or drugs with their god on the same level? It may be meant to be insulting but it's as much insulting as it is threatening when you shoot yourself in the foot.

 

[Audie]

I doubt it, atheism has nothing to fight for, every one of us disbelieves there is a god. Fighting for any other reason is nothing ti do with atheism.

I sure you believe your beastie is atheist. However if you read the bible you find it is a god believer.

However feel free to make up whatever you want to dis atheism with if it makes you feel better

It's unproductive to talk to someone who
just says things.

 

[Heyo]

Hi ChristineM. Good afternoon. The world is becoming more atheistic, as a result of this trend, I am sure it is simply a matter of time before we see wars from atheists.

Atheists do go to war but they don't go to war for anti-religious reasons.

As @ChristineM said, atheists have one thing in common, they don't believe in gods. But there are a lot of things that are associated with atheism, not by definition and not all atheists show those characteristics, but its a statistical probability.

• Atheists, having rejected one belief, are also often less gullible, they are less likely to be drawn into wars on bogus assertions.
• Atheists, having no "holy" principles that have to be defended against all attacks and against al logic, are more tolerant and more able to accept compromises.
• Atheist, often having had to think for themselves and find their own morality, are more likely to follow a rational morality instead of one that was concocted in the bronze age and indoctrinated.

These thing - that are not exclusive to atheists nor defining them - are what have a potential to reduce wars and other atrocities.

 

[Messianic Israelite]

So the core message of "love thy neighbour" is just unadulterated crap. Ok, i understand.

And you offer an opinion piece that in no way represents the vast majority of atheists.

Why are you associating "the left" with atheists... Sure some are left, some middle, some right and some apolitical

If youve been keeping up with the news the thought of removing the bible is a back lash to counter the deliberate dumming down of schools, banning books, limiting education only to wholesome biblical subjects, dont mention gay or LGBT etc that is occurring in America right now.

Basically its a case of people not enjoying being crapped on by the religious right. Sorry you don't like it

Hi ChristineM. I didn't associate the left with atheists. Generally, the left wing is characterized by an emphasis on ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism while the right wing is characterized by an emphasis on notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism. I lean towards the right. I would call myself a conservative as I oppose abortion, LGBT behavior, drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage. I understand that atheists can come from the left or right.

 

[ChristineM]

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Hi ChristineM. I didn't associate the left with atheists. Generally, the left wing is characterized by an emphasis on ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism while the right wing is characterized by an emphasis on notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism. I lean towards the right. I would call myself a conservative as I oppose abortion, LGBT behavior, drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage. I understand that atheists can come from the left or right.

Ok, combining them in the same argument I assumed you were associating. So if f not i wonder why you brought it up at all

 

[Messianic Israelite]

Atheists do go to war but they don't go to war for anti-religious reasons.

As @ChristineM said, atheists have one thing in common, they don't believe in gods. But there are a lot of things that are associated with atheism, not by definition and not all atheists show those characteristics, but its a statistical probability.

• Atheists, having rejected one belief, are also often less gullible, they are less likely to be drawn into wars on bogus assertions.
• Atheists, having no "holy" principles that have to be defended against all attacks and against al logic, are more tolerant and more able to accept compromises.
• Atheist, often having had to think for themselves and find their own morality, are more likely to follow a rational morality instead of one that was concocted in the bronze age and indoctrinated.

These thing - that are not exclusive to atheists nor defining them - are what have a potential to reduce wars and other atrocities.

Hi Heyo. Good afternoon. That's your opinion. Let's look at the top atheistic countries of the world:

1. China - 103,907,840 — 181,838,720
2. India - 102,870,000
3. Japan - 81,493,120 — 82,766,450
4. Vietnam - 66,978,900
5. Russia - 34,507,680 — 69,015,360
6. Germany - 33,794,250 — 40,388,250
7. France - 25,982,320 — 32,628,960
8. United Kingdom - 18,684,010 — 26,519,240
9. South Korea - 14,579,400 — 25,270,960
10. Ukraine - 9,546,400

Russia and China are probably the biggest threats to world peace in our modern day society.

 

[Messianic Israelite]

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Ok, combining them in the same argument I assumed you were associating. So if f not i wonder why you brought it up at all

Hi ChristineM. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Sometimes when something is on my mind, I get it off my chest.

 

[Heyo]

Hi Heyo. Good afternoon. That's your opinion. Let's look at the top atheistic countries of the world:

1. China - 103,907,840 — 181,838,720
2. India - 102,870,000
3. Japan - 81,493,120 — 82,766,450
4. Vietnam - 66,978,900
5. Russia - 34,507,680 — 69,015,360
6. Germany - 33,794,250 — 40,388,250
7. France - 25,982,320 — 32,628,960
8. United Kingdom - 18,684,010 — 26,519,240
9. South Korea - 14,579,400 — 25,270,960
10. Ukraine - 9,546,400

Russia and China are probably the biggest threats to world peace in our modern day society.

That title goes and has gone to the US for now 60 years plus.

How many wars have China and Russia fought or instigated in that time? And were those to spread atheism?
Otoh, the US didn't fight wars in the name of religion but the US is one of the more religious countries.

All what that shows is that religiosity of the population is not the single indicator of the belligerence of the government. It's more complicated. But if you'd add up the religious countries and atheist countries and not cherry pick, you'll find a statistically significant correlation between war and religion.

 

[ChristineM]

1. China - 103,907,840 — 181,838,720
2. India - 102,870,000
3. Japan - 81,493,120 — 82,766,450
4. Vietnam - 66,978,900
5. Russia - 34,507,680 — 69,015,360
6. Germany - 33,794,250 — 40,388,250
7. France - 25,982,320 — 32,628,960
8. United Kingdom - 18,684,010 — 26,519,240
9. South Korea - 14,579,400 — 25,270,960
10. Ukraine - 9,546,400

China, less than 13% non religious
India, atheism isn't even counted but bundled in with the 1.3% other.
Japan, same as India, bundled in with 4.7% other.
Vietnam??? predominantly Buddhist
Russia, predominantly orthodox Christian with around 5% atheist
Germany, only around 3.5% unaffiliated
France, wow, around 25% identify as not religious, how many of those are atheist i really don't know.
Getting bored so I won't go any further

But i suggest working in percentage or comparing with the number of religious. Also note that non religious / unaffiliated does not necessarily mean atheist

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Hi Heyo. Good afternoon. That's your opinion. Let's look at the top atheistic countries of the world:

1. China - 103,907,840 — 181,838,720
2. India - 102,870,000
3. Japan - 81,493,120 — 82,766,450
4. Vietnam - 66,978,900
5. Russia - 34,507,680 — 69,015,360
6. Germany - 33,794,250 — 40,388,250
7. France - 25,982,320 — 32,628,960
8. United Kingdom - 18,684,010 — 26,519,240
9. South Korea - 14,579,400 — 25,270,960
10. Ukraine - 9,546,400

Russia and China are probably the biggest threats to world peace in our modern day society.

I'm curious on where your numbers are coming from for India (and possibly others, but let's start there).
The link from your post has the following quote;
In 2011, 0.9% of Indians selected the 'No Religion' category.

With a population of approximately 1.25 billion in 2011, give or take, that would mean that if every single no religion person was an atheist, you're still left with only about 11 million atheists. And there is no way that everyone saying 'no religion' is an atheist. Not even close.

 

[Jedster]

I'm curious on where your numbers are coming from for India (and possibly others, but let's start there).
The link from your post has the following quote;
In 2011, 0.9% of Indians selected the 'No Religion' category.

With a population of approximately 1.25 billion in 2011, give or take, that would mean that if every single no religion person was an atheist, you're still left with only about 11 million atheists. And there is no way that everyone saying 'no religion' is an atheist. Not even close.

That's true. Lots of people believe in God or god(s) and do not follow any religion.

 

[Heyo]

China, less than 13% non religious
India, atheism isn't even counted but bundled in with the 1.3% other.
Japan, same as India, bundled in with 4.7% other.
Vietnam??? predominantly Buddhist
Russia, predominantly orthodox Christian with around 5% atheist
Germany, only around 3.5% unaffiliated
France, wow, around 25% identify as not religious, how many of those are atheist i really don't know.
Getting bored so I won't go any further

But i suggest working in percentage or comparing with the number of religious. Also note that non religious / unaffiliated does not necessarily mean atheist

"The largest single group, however, is non-believers, who make up 34% of the population." - from Germany Population 2023 (Live), the link @Messianic Israelite provided.
(And Germany is one of the least belligerent countries. Preparing an attack war is a constitutional crime.)

 

[lewisnotmiller]

That's true. Lots of people believe in God or god(s) and do not follow any religion.

Yep. India explicitly calls out that various minor and tribal religions get included in 'no religion'. Plus agnostics, non religious believers, etc.