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If America was an Atheist Country

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I'm sorry I just had to ask it, LOL. If America was an Atheist country would the government punish people for being religious like Communist Russia did? Like China still does?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I'm sorry I just had to ask it, LOL. If America was an Atheist country would the government punish people for being religious like Communist Russia did? Like China still does?

Well if this atheist country punished people for being religious like Communist Russia, then yes they would have.

If it was an atheist country that didn't punish people for being religious like Communist Russia, then no it wouldn't have.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
americans are a very "passionate" people but we would not know until it happens, but it could very well never happen.
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
Communism is a system wherein all monetary strings are completely controlled by the communist party. It puts priests out of a job and that is why preachers in the US preach the evils of communism.

As it is, the US Constitution is a secular document in that it favors no religion in particular, so in a sense it is religiously neutral already, just as atheism is.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
Communism is a system wherein all monetary strings are completely controlled by the communist party. It puts priests out of a job and that is why preachers in the US preach the evils of communism.

As it is, the US Constitution is a secular document in that it favors no religion in particular, so in a sense it is religiously neutral already, just as atheism is.

athiesm isnt religious neutrality its anti religious, not in a bad way of course its just rejecting religion, secularism however honestly doesntly care.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
athiesm isnt religious neutrality its anti religious, not in a bad way of course its just rejecting religion, secularism however honestly doesntly care.

Antitheism is anti-religious. Nothing about Atheism implies anti-religious sentiments.

EDIT: For example.. atheist Buddhist.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
Antitheism is anti-religious. Nothing about Atheism implies anti-religious sentiments.

EDIT: For example.. atheist Buddhist.

perhaps my statement was a bit strong but saying there is no God isnt exaclty neutral is it? neutral would be more agnostic as in "you cant know" which is exactly what secualrism is like in my opinion, its tolerance no leaning one way or the other,
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
If American were an atheist country, it might be harder to get the people to go to war against anyone and everyone without the churches chiming in to tell them to go to war.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
If American were an atheist country, it might be harder to get the people to go to war against anyone and everyone without the churches chiming in to tell them to go to war.

really cause i know a ton of thiests who were against the whole Idea, and unless athiesm has some kind of head that speaks for it you couldnt possibly know that that statement is true.
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
The rule of communism by fear and intimidation began with the church, as we can read of in Acts beginning at chapter 4, 32. When communism is controlled by the church, there is no problem as long as everyone abides by the church. When communism is controlled by the state, there is no problem as long as everyone abides by the state.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
really cause i know a ton of thiests who were against the whole Idea, and unless athiesm has some kind of head that speaks for it you couldnt possibly know that that statement is true.

He can't prove it, but he can make an educated guess.

Incidentally, I agree with him.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
The rule of communism by fear and intimidation began with the church, as we can read of in Acts 4, 32. When communism is controlled by the church, there is no problem as long as everyone abides by the church. When communism is controlled by the state, there is no problem as long as everyone abides by the state.

yes but that was only one situation in the bible we can read in other parts of the bible when this wasnt the case, also where is the fear and intimidation in this verse? and when does it say that this was a continual thing like in russia? and who is to say this was forced?

seriously man I dont think you have thought this comparrison through
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
He can't prove it, but he can make an educated guess.

Incidentally, I agree with him.

no he cant, you couldnt possible know even a majority of what athiests believe, we all want to think the best of what we believe, weather we have facts to back that up is another matter.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
no he cant, you couldnt possible know even a majority of what athiests believe, we all want to think the best of what we believe, weather we have facts to back that up is another matter.

Uh? It is not possible for us Atheists to know what our own majority believes in?

Really?

You're of course free to suspect us of a favorable bias. But claiming that we can't even guess at our own beliefs and behaviors is a bit too extreme for your own good, don't you think?
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
yes but that was only one situation in the bible we can read in other parts of the bible when this wasnt the case, also where is the fear and intimidation in this verse? and when does it say that this was a continual thing like in russia? and who is to say this was forced?

seriously man I dont think you have thought this comparrison through

It begins at Acts 4:32. Read thru to Acts 5: 11Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
 
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