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If Atheists lack morality...

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Why is it that the majority - and I mean 90% - of terrorists and Nationalists are all religious in nature?
 

Jeremy Taylor

Active Member
On top of what George said:

I'm not really a nationalist. I'm too decentralist for a start, and too conservative. But I'm not an internationalist either. But why would you assume they were immoral and, indeed, necessarily theists?

Why tie in your question to such a puerile, tangential swipe at those you dislike?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
'Atheists lack morality' is a minority (and shrinking) view in the population. This thread title strikes me as an atheist with a persecution complex.

Well, we do all love our persecution complexes. I just love whining about the Burning Times and how 9 million Witches died at the hands of evil, evil Christians. It makes me feel special.

;)
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
It boils down to not believing in God is defined as a sin in dominant religions.

Society has advanced far enough that athiests are no longer persecuted, so yes, we're beyond that.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Why is it that the majority - and I mean 90% - of terrorists and Nationalists are all religious in nature?

You mean 90% of such people as get caught and identified are religious. Maybe even atheist psychokillers are smarter....
:)
Tom
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Why is it that the majority - and I mean 90% - of terrorists and Nationalists are all religious in nature?

We would have to know the minds and hearts of every human being that applies an outward label to their inner self to know that answer.

Terrorists, nationalists in the name of a religion would have to commit and perform terror by being "atheist" to the particular nation(s) and/or religion(s) they chose to perform terror on.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
...and why are so few incarcerated, but the majority of people who are incarcerated claim to be religious to some degree?

:shrug:
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Why is it that the majority - and I mean 90% - of terrorists and Nationalists are all religious in nature?

Isn't that because only 10% of people are actually atheist???
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
...and why are so few incarcerated, but the majority of people who are incarcerated claim to be religious to some degree?

:shrug:
To be fair, quite a bit of that probably comes down to the fact that putting on a show of religiosity can often be a good tactic for getting parole.

... which suggests a whole other set of problems with the religious nature of society, but that's probably a separate topic.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Isn't that because only 10% of people are actually atheist???

Oh I'm not excusing the ten percent. I'm talking about the imbalance between people saying 'Atheists are immoral because they have no god' and the people doing immoral things because of their god.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Oh I'm not excusing the ten percent. I'm talking about the imbalance between people saying 'Atheists are immoral because they have no god' and the people doing immoral things because of their god.
A discussion about the 99.9999% who want something would be interesting.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
To be fair, quite a bit of that probably comes down to the fact that putting on a show of religiosity can often be a good tactic for getting parole.

... which suggests a whole other set of problems with the religious nature of society, but that's probably a separate topic.
lol you might not have intended this to be funny, but i laughed. :D
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
You mean 90% of such people as get caught and identified are religious. Maybe even atheist psychokillers are smarter....
:)
Tom
Religious people are consistently over represented in our prisons in relation to the percentage of the overall population they represent. I don.t think relative intelligence is involved, but there is a correlation between level of education and both religion and crime. Of course, correlation does not necessarily mean causation.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Saying you believe in God does not make you religious, people in prison are generally non or much less religious people. If they took their religion seriously, went to church and the like, they wouldn't be breaking laws, generally.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Religious people are consistently over represented in our prisons in relation to the percentage of the overall population they represent.

I was being more than a little facetious.
But I don't think the self reporting of prison inmates religious beliefs is solid evidence of anything. There are too many reasons for someone to deceive. And they are not, as a group, known for honest self assessment.

I expect the large majority don't believe in God. That makes them atheists. But expressing that doesn't get you anything in prison. So there is no reason to do so, and claiming differently does have advantages. So I expect a large percentage to claim a religious belief.
Tom
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
Saying you believe in God does not make you religious, people in prison are generally non religious people. If they took their religion seriously, went to church and the like, they wouldn't be breaking laws, generally.

I don't know about that. If you look at the OT, it's pretty harsh in terms of how believers should divide and conquer. That's all religion really does in the end...divides and attempts to conquer, not necessarily in a violent way, but it tries to separate people. And that can be taken to a radical extreme and then crimes are committed 'in the name of religion.'
 
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