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If Creationism is True Then Why Say It Was Jehovah?

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
If creationism was true then why assume it was Jehovah?

It could have been that males where created by the Titan Προμηθεύς (Prometheus) and the Goddess Ἀθηνᾶ (Athena) while the females where made by Δίας (Zeus).

It could have been aliens.

It could have been that the Primordial Deities, Titans, Gods, and Ocean Gods are all aliens for all we know.

Why assume that it was Jehovah?
 
If creationism was true then why assume it was Jehovah?

It could have been that males where created by the Titan Προμηθεύς (Prometheus) and the Goddess Ἀθηνᾶ (Athena) while the females where made by Δίας (Zeus).

It could have been aliens.

It could have been that the Primordial Deities, Titans, Gods, and Ocean Gods are all aliens for all we know.

Why assume that it was Jehovah?

He is the one responsible for the Holy Scriptures.He is the one everyone tries to disprove.He is on the minds of many.
 

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
He is the one responsible for the Holy Scriptures.He is the one everyone tries to disprove.He is on the minds of many.

So if χάος (chaos) was on everyone's minds then they would know that being is the origin of the universe?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
If creationism was true then why assume it was Jehovah?
As it is currently and most popularly considered, creationism refers to the Christian belief that the universe and the diversity of life on earth originated from specific acts by the god of Abraham. Want to posit some other god and operation, go right ahead.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
If creationism was true then why assume it was Jehovah?

When we talk about "creationism" in Western culture, it specifically refers to Biblical mythology and no other mythologies. And, at times, us used specifically to designate infantile, literalistic interpretations of Biblical mythology with respect to creation stories.
 

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
When we talk about "creationism" in Western culture, it specifically refers to Biblical mythology and no other mythologies. And, at times, us used specifically to designate infantile, literalistic interpretations of Biblical mythology with respect to creation stories.

Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

",as in the biblical account," this is an example.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Creationism: the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

",as in the biblical account," this is an example.

Yeah, I get that.

I'm explaining to you that, with respect to how the word is actually used in common parlance, creationism specifically is taken to mean only the Biblical variety. So much so that some regard calling the mythologies of other religions "creationism" to be an incorrect usage of the term. Therefore, with respect to how conversations about creationism actually go in the Western world, creationism by necessity specifically references the one-god of the bible, and nothing else.
 

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
Yeah, I get that.

I'm explaining to you that, with respect to how the word is actually used in common parlance, creationism specifically is taken to mean only the Biblical variety. So much so that some regard calling the mythologies of other religions "creationism" to be an incorrect usage of the term. Therefore, with respect to how conversations about creationism actually go in the Western world, creationism by necessity specifically references the one-god of the bible, and nothing else.

Well the word Witch in common usage means a "Satanic black magic using woman" but seeing that you are a druidic witch I am inclined to believe that you do not use it's popular usage.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Well the word Witch in common usage means a "Satanic black magic using woman" but seeing that you are a druidic witch I am inclined to believe that you do not use it's popular usage.

No, but that's kind of irrelevant with respect to what the term means in common parlance.

You asked why people assume creationism = Jehovah. It's because in common parlance, creationism = Biblical creationism. In the mind of the overculture, polytheism is dead, other world religions are irrelevant or unimportant, and there is no sense in giving any consideration to non-Biblical forms of "creationism." The assumption made and the reasons for it is nothing more spectacular than that.
 

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
No, but that's kind of irrelevant with respect to what the term means in common parlance.

You asked why people assume creationism = Jehovah. It's because in common parlance, creationism = Biblical creationism. In the mind of the overculture, polytheism is dead, other world religions are irrelevant or unimportant, and there is no sense in giving any consideration to non-Biblical forms of "creationism." The assumption made and the reasons for it is nothing more spectacular than that.

Ok.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
If creationism was true then why assume it was Jehovah?

It could have been that males where created by the Titan Προμηθεύς (Prometheus) and the Goddess Ἀθηνᾶ (Athena) while the females where made by Δίας (Zeus).

It could have been aliens.

It could have been that the Primordial Deities, Titans, Gods, and Ocean Gods are all aliens for all we know.

Why assume that it was Jehovah?

Because they have no evidence whatsoever of their particular God being true. If they did have that evidence, they would just show us that Jehovah is true, instead of venturing into cosmology or biology, or other indirect means of proving theism.

Ciao

- viole
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
If creationism was true then why assume it was Jehovah?

It could have been that males where created by the Titan Προμηθεύς (Prometheus) and the Goddess Ἀθηνᾶ (Athena) while the females where made by Δίας (Zeus).

It could have been aliens.

It could have been that the Primordial Deities, Titans, Gods, and Ocean Gods are all aliens for all we know.

Why assume that it was Jehovah?
I think it's because most of the discussions today are done in the Western world where you can find Christianity being the strong influence historically, culturally, and philosophically.
 

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
I think it's because most of the discussions today are done in the Western world where you can find Christianity being the strong influence historically, culturally, and philosophically.

Hellenism contributed to Christianity the idea of destiny which I think is pretty prevalent in society.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Hellenism contributed to Christianity the idea of destiny which I think is pretty prevalent in society.
Sure. And the idea of a creator, and many other ideas, came from multiple religions and philosophies existing before Christianity. But the question in the thread was more about why we assume in our society that a creator is the Judeo-Christian God (Jehovah, YHWH, etc), and it's historical. It's the religion that is the undercurrent of our society and culture in the west.
 

Iereas tou Apollona

Ιερέας του Απόλλωνα Priest of Apollo
Sure. And the idea of a creator, and many other ideas, came from multiple religions and philosophies existing before Christianity. But the question in the thread was more about why we assume in our society that a creator is the Judeo-Christian God (Jehovah, YHWH, etc), and it's historical. It's the religion that is the undercurrent of our society and culture in the west.

So in a few hundred years it will probably be about how Allah made the universe.
 
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