ThePainefulTruth
Romantic-Cynic
Hmmmm, they don't have badges here for irrelevant.I imagine that a god would be much like Slartibartfast.
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Hmmmm, they don't have badges here for irrelevant.I imagine that a god would be much like Slartibartfast.
He had a wry sense of humor.Hmmmm, they don't have badges here for irrelevant.
God "exists" within and through us. So if we have a sense of humor, our sense of humor is also "God's sense of humor".If so, what would make God smile, so to speak, or laugh?
If not, does that mean God is just a cold fish or fancy computer program?
He's omniscient. He knows all possible futures that we could ever create through our choices.Bingo! God could only be surprised by independent creatures with free will.
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So you're saying we're not made in God's image.
Because the existence of G-d's motivation is beyond our conception. It may not exist.
Yeah, but if God does exist......
It is a claim to know nothing. It is a claim about myself (that I can't know G-d). G-d is presumably knowable to Himself. I'm not making any claims about G-d.
I don't have any knowledge of G-d, so it comes from nowhere.
Nay, if God does exist, it does come from somewhere, your self-awareness.
First it needs to be proved that G-d needs to have desire in order to act in a non-mechanical manner.
That is a feature of the creation, what proof do you have that it is a feature of the Creator?[
The only alternative is that God had no desire to create the universe, yet It did. That shouts God not being in control.
The contradiction only exists in a dimension in which it works that way.
Have you deduced some special knowledge of dimensions I haven't heard of. If so, you need to publish.
All I'm saying is, you can't derive any essential traits about the Creator from the Creation.
We can't create anything without revealing something of ourselves, and we're made in God's image--or do you believe we're not. I thought you were biblical, and that's one of the great bits of wisdom there is in the Bible.
He's omniscient. He knows all possible futures that we could ever create through our choices.
You don't think life is a joke?If so, what would make God smile, so to speak, or laugh?
If not, does that mean God is just a cold fish or fancy computer program?
I fail to see how omniscience contradicts the existence of a certain number of choices. Complete free does not exist in this life. We are given a number of choices and each one leads to various different outcomes.God, if It exists, sets our choices beyond It's omniscience in order that we have free will. If God knows what we're going to do before we do it, the choice isn't ours, it's God's--making us God's hand puppets.
Have you noticed how funny some animals look?If so, what would make God smile, so to speak, or laugh?
If not, does that mean God is just a cold fish or fancy computer program?
There are no higher animals that don't have a sense of humor of some type. I imagine that this would have to be true of the hypothetical deity that created them as well.If so, what would make God smile, so to speak, or laugh?
If not, does that mean God is just a cold fish or fancy computer program?
Cats doing funny things are also humorous without having those features.Much humor is based on surprise. How can an omniscient being be surprised?
Much other humor is based on forcing us to look at ourselves. The discomfort produces laughter. How does this work with a perfect being?
On the other hand, perhaps the universe is just a great big joke and God is laughing at it continually.
If so, what would make God smile, so to speak, or laugh?
If not, does that mean God is just a cold fish or fancy computer program?
I know a lot of people do, but, whether or not God exists, no. I believe this is a test for our own edification, again, whether or not God exists. What did we do with the life we had.You don't think life is a joke?
Have you noticed how funny some animals look?
Have you noticed how funny a beautiful woman looks once she is heavily pregnant? (naked of course)
Have you noticed how ridiculous a man looks when his penis is ready for sex?
Have you noticed some of the animal dances they do for getting a mate interested?
There can be little doubt as to God having a sense of humor.
No. G-d does not have a sense of humor nor any other human characteristic. A pillar of Judaism is that G-d is Eternal and Unchanging. Having an emotion is experiencing a change.
Cats doing funny things are also humorous without having those features.
If so, what would make God smile, so to speak, or laugh?
If not, does that mean God is just a cold fish or fancy computer program?
So:
1) How do you know that even if God is eternal, that It doesn't experience change?
2) Why should we think that God doesn't change in the first place?
3) And how can we be created in God's image and not have any characteristics in common?
Seems to me that the sense of humor is a survival tool for us complex gregarious animals.I know a lot of people do, but, whether or not God exists, no. I believe this is a test for our own edification, again, whether or not God exists. What did we do with the life we had.
No. I expect them to be doing those funny things.You aren't surprised by the antic of the cats?