If God wants circumcision...

[The Sum of Awe]

If God wants circumcision, why did he add foreskin to our design in the first place?

 

[psychoslice]

He He, yea it makes one wonder that's for sure, he seems to have a fancy to our dangly parts and what we do with them.

 

[Curious George]

If God wants circumcision, why did he add foreskin to our design in the first place?

One may ask why any species has unnecessary parts? But I do not think that you will find an answer.

If circumcision is a covenant wanted by me wouldn't it make sense for me to give those, whom I made, the tools with which to make such a covenant? Hard to sign a contract without a pen.

 

[psychoslice]

A pen, sorry I thought you said a penis lol.

 

[Tumah]

If God wants circumcision, why did he add foreskin to our design in the first place?

That's the same as asking, if G-d wants everyone to be peaceful, why did He create in us a desire to be jealous, angry, etc.

The answer, is because He wants us to take a part in our creation, by completing the final steps of creation into perfect beings, to the extent that we are able. We become closer to G-d by becoming identical to Him through creating ourselves.

But he doesn't want you to circumcise yourself.

 

[psychoslice]

That's the same as asking, if G-d wants everyone to be peaceful, why did He create in us a desire to be jealous, angry, etc.

The answer, is because He wants us to take a part in our creation, by completing the final steps of creation into perfect beings, to the extent that we are able. We become closer to G-d by becoming identical to Him through creating ourselves.

But he doesn't want you to circumcise yourself.

So why do they circumcise their self ?.

 

[Tumah]

So why do they circumcise their self ?.

Why does who circumcise whose self?

 

[Nietzsche]

If God wants circumcision, why did he add foreskin to our design in the first place?

If you look at any of the male sexual anatomy in humans it becomes pretty clear that if a designer was responsible that the day they were doing men everyone was hungover and tired, and they just scraped up all the leftover bits(turkey-neck things, the missing nuggets on a chicken, the honey badger's sense of compassion, you know stuff like that) and closed their eyes, playing both the first and single most horrifying round of "pin-the-tail on the donkey" ever conceived

Presumably, somewhere down the assembly line the stoners took one big inhale & thought how totally awesome it would be to give a beaver a duck-bill, poisonous spurs, and have it lay eggs. The coke-addicts across the hall, paranoid after a long bender, made the echidna in response.

 

[psychoslice]

Why does who circumcise whose self?

The Jews, don't they believe in cutting the end of the member ?.

 

[Tumah]

The Jews, don't they believe in cutting the end of the member ?.

Well, its just the foreskin, not the actual organ. But yes.

 

[psychoslice]

Well, its just the foreskin, not the actual organ. But yes.

yes of course that's what I meant, I myself have been circumcised, and i have to say that it does look good lol.

 

[Madhuri]

The only thing Im curious about is why is cutting off the foreskin something God would consider a spiritual act. How does it make one a perfect being? Or closer to God? I don't know what the reasoning is.

 

[philbo]

If you've got a god whose idea of a fun time is to plant a tree in the middle of your garden with luscious looking fruit, then says "don't eat them", he's a bit of a practical joker. This is just a sick sense of humour going a bit too far... "I wonder what bit I can get them to chop off.." (he says, with a grin hidden behind the beard)

 

[psychoslice]

The only thing Im curious about is why is cutting off the foreskin something God would consider a spiritual act. How does it make one a perfect being? Or closer to God? I don't know what the reasoning is.

I agree, it is said that they actually bit off the foreskin with their mouth, how discussing and primitive.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

That's the same as asking, if G-d wants everyone to be peaceful, why did He create in us a desire to be jealous, angry, etc.

The answer, is because He wants us to take a part in our creation, by completing the final steps of creation into perfect beings, to the extent that we are able. We become closer to G-d by becoming identical to Him through creating ourselves.

But he doesn't want you to circumcise yourself.

So how do you think mutilating the genitals of babies helps us progress to becoming perfect beings?

 

[psychoslice]

I do believe that circumcision is healthy, if we are not circumcised we can develop all sorts of problems, that is why our parents kept telling us to bull back the foreskin and to clean it,.

 

[Tumah]

So how do you think mutilating the genitals of babies helps us progress to becoming perfect beings?

That's a loaded question. Try re-framing it and I'll be happy to answer you.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

That's a loaded question. Try re-framing it and I'll be happy to answer you.

Fair enough. How about this?

How does cutting the foreskin off of babies help us progress to becoming perfect beings?

 

[Tumah]

Fair enough. How about this?

How does cutting the foreskin off of babies help us progress to becoming perfect beings?

Because the foreskin represents an imperfection on the body. We were not given the ability to grow limbs (for whatever reason G-d has), so by giving us an imperfection to remove from our bodies, we are given the opportunity to fix ourselves. In the same way that removing anger from our hearts helps us progress towards perfection, removal of the foreskin does as well.
To keep it short without getting into the deeper aspects of it, we divide the body between the upper and lower half. Within the top half, there is a head, trunk and two arm with five fingers each. This represents the the four letters of the Tetragrammaton. The [relatively] small head (yod), the long trunk (vav), and the five fingers doubled (two heh's). On the lower half of the body, we have the two legs with five toes each and a trunk. The 'small head' is lacking until the circumcision reveals it. Once it is revealed we have elevated the lower half of our body by imprinting the Name of G-d there.

All this is really only for Jews though since non-Jews are not commanded to circumcise.

 

[Madhuri]

Because the foreskin represents an imperfection on the body. We were not given the ability to grow limbs (for whatever reason G-d has), so by giving us an imperfection to remove from our bodies, we are given the opportunity to fix ourselves. In the same way that removing anger from our hearts helps us progress towards perfection, removal of the foreskin does as well.

What do you mean, an opportunity to fix ourselves. I'm not sure how it compares with something like anger. Anger is something we make an effort to remove, it's a personal process. But circumcision is something that happens to us when we are in a helpless state. There's no personal decision made.

Does circumcision only represent physical perfection or something deeper? Because I'm sure there are arguments that can be made about how the body is imperfect.

To keep it short without getting into the deeper aspects of it, we divide the body between the upper and lower half. Within the top half, there is a head, trunk and two arm with five fingers each. This represents the the four letters of the Tetragrammaton. The [relatively] small head (yod), the long trunk (vav), and the five fingers doubled (two heh's). On the lower half of the body, we have the two legs with five toes each and a trunk. The 'small head' is lacking until the circumcision reveals it. Once it is revealed we have elevated the lower half of our body by imprinting the Name of G-d there.

Ha! I had a naughty thought about how an uncircumcised man's 'small head' is revealed during arousal.

What do you mean, 'imprinting the name of G-d?' Does the uncircumcised penis represent G-d or His name? I'm confused.

All this is really only for Jews though since non-Jews are not commanded to circumcise.

What does that make non-Jews?