Trailblazer
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This has nothing to do with my religion. Many people have pointed out that Paul disagrees with Jesus.
PAUL vs. JESUS: A List of Contradictory and Incompatible Statements
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If Jesus returned to this world, how would you know it was Jesus?
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PAUL vs. JESUS: A List of Contradictory and Incompatible Statements
Yes I realise how many groups, denominations , cults, religions ect have a problem with Paul . Because the revelation given to Paul by Jesus refutes all of the above . I'm not surprised why 13 epistles in the bible ,some people take issue with. Its because the 13 epistles completely rule out their beliefs.
Yes I realise how many groups, denominations , cults, religions ect have a problem with Paul . Because the revelation given to Paul by Jesus refutes all of the above . I'm not surprised why 13 epistles in the bible ,some people take issue with. Its because the 13 epistles completely rule out their beliefs.
This is what Peter meant when he said .
2 Peter 3:16
“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That should tell you something, if the 13 epistles completely rule out other beliefs and the 4 gospels don't.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Revelation given to Paul by Jesus? I much prefer the revelation given to Jesus by God.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
All Christianity would be decrying him. He would be ridiculed, discarded, even killed by the mob.
That'd be the likely candidate.
Of course you would, as that's what you have been taken in by your religion .
Acts 9
15¶But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, I am taken in by Jesus whereas you are taken in by Paul.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Some of them were never written by Paul. They are forgeries. A nice word is pseudepigrapha.
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
Most Christians are waiting for Jesus to return, although they do not all agree on when or how He will return, but if a man came claiming to be Jesus how would you know it was really Jesus? After all, there are no photos of what Jesus looked like when He walked the earth 2000 years ago.
Anyone can claim that he is the return of Jesus and that is no doubt why Jesus gave this warning to His disciples:
Matthew 24
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Jesus was right, because many men have come claiming to be Jesus
List of people claimed to be Jesus - Wikipedia
So how would you know if a man who claimed to be Jesus was really Jesus? What would he have to do to prove to you that He was Jesus?
(This is mostly for Christians, but anyone can answer it.
Dear Trailblazer
I do wonder a little why one would have to know though...
Christians who try to live as Christlike as possible, presumably aim to treat anyone - regardless of whom they claim to be - with respect and humility.
If they truly do this, they ought not need to know whether the person before them is Jesus or not ...an, if they do not do this, perhaps they should not be calling themselves Christians in the first place...?
In a way, this would be the ultimate test of their actual spiritual praxis.
Humbly
Hermit
Brian2
Veteran Member
Most Christians are waiting for Jesus to return, although they do not all agree on when or how He will return, but if a man came claiming to be Jesus how would you know it was really Jesus? After all, there are no photos of what Jesus looked like when He walked the earth 2000 years ago.
Anyone can claim that he is the return of Jesus and that is no doubt why Jesus gave this warning to His disciples:
Matthew 24
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Jesus was right, because many men have come claiming to be Jesus
List of people claimed to be Jesus - Wikipedia
So how would you know if a man who claimed to be Jesus was really Jesus? What would he have to do to prove to you that He was Jesus?
(This is mostly for Christians, but anyone can answer it.
All we have to know is how to know someone who claims to be the return of Christ and is not.
The one left over is the real Jesus.
As all 66 books of the bible are from God ,im taken in by Genesis to Revelation. I don't need to cherry pick which books / letters are more authoritative than others. They are all equally authoritative. When I read the four Gosepls and all of the epistles in the NT ,all of the NT is equally from God .
You should ask to be put on it. You claim to be enlightened, after all.
We only have one serious question about one book in the NT and that's the Author of Hebrews . Because the author of Hebrews is not given. I do not buy into certain scholars opinions who can barely understand the narrative .
firedragon
Veteran Member
You think most scholars dont understand the "narrative"?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Sorry, what I know of science does not allow me to believe in the fables of spiritual bodies.
Perhaps not Jesus, but many people tell lies without batting an eye.
est me by what I say. And that is a challenge.
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Jedster
Flying through space
I believe it will be Maitreya, but do we have any photos of him?
Here is Maitrya today (according t o some)
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Now you err heavily, Trailblazer. Saoshyant, Kalki and Maitreya have already lived and and died in 1892 in the form of your uneducated Iranian Preacher, Bahaollah. You people do not even know your own things.I believe it will be Maitreya, but do we have any photos of him?