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If Jesus Showed up Today...

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
JESUS'S 2ND COMING:



Two thousand years ago, Jews looked like Arabs (before mixing with other races, like Germans). Jewish DNA is a strange mixture now, despite the ban on marrying outside of their faith.



Hmm....brown skin....a fence at the Mexican/American border.....deported. Speaks Spanish? Nope....they don't bother to check....they just deport.



But, before being deported, he'd be jobless and homeless, and treated as such. Police would find his meager possessions (Social Security card that would allow him to work, or green card) and toss them in the trash while kicking him out into the desert to fend for himself. Shelter for the homeless? Not in my back yard (abbreviated NIMBY). Laws are for the rich, not the poor.



Who is treating him this way? The Religious Right, which elected several of our recent presidents (Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Trump).



But shouldn't the Religious Right be for the teachings of Jesus? Environmental damage of God's environment so oil companies could greedily make more mammon (money). Tearing down rain forests for lumber, and telling people that logging roads are forest service roads to preserve them. The idea is that Christians will rapture to heaven, leaving behind a toxic waste planet, that they are done exploiting. Homeless people burgeoning and ignored. Empty homes, and many homeless. The rich will soon own everything then charge everyone else rent (at whatever price they choose).



Convinced that rapture is soon, Christians try to accelerate it (Reagan helped arm the Middle East to make it a powder keg, about to detonate into war). Reagan gave state-of-the-art fighter planes to Egypt. Bush Sr. bribed Iran not to interfere with US plans for 20 years (Obama forced to pay that terrorist nation to fulfill the bribe because it is a debt of the US).



God said "thou shalt not kill" and "turn the other cheek" but the Religious Right confuses worship and "war ship." We have wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and W. Bush tried to make war in Niger by falsely accusing them of selling Uranium Yellow-Cake to Iraq. All these wars were unnecessary, since none were against terrorists.



The National Debt is huge and growing, and much of it is due to foul ups of the Religious Right presidents, blamed on Democrats.



God appointed psychics to convince people not to fight in Iraq. They were utterly ignored. I suppose that Christ, on his 2nd coming, would be ignored, as well.



Miracles? Miracles are a threat to national security. It means that some entity with super-human powers "might" some day pose a threat to the US (just as Iraq was thought to). Dissection to see what makes Christ tick? In carceration and torture at Guantanamo?



The Religious Right is so far out of touch with Christianity, that they wouldn't recognize the savior if he bit them on the.
" JESUS'S 2ND COMING:" " Convinced that rapture is soon "

The truthful Jesus' Second Coming has already taken place and Armageddon or Rapture has already started.

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1

You will be taken aback to note that Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, had already been started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Second Coming/Imam Mahdi 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War

Right?

Regards
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
I am sure, 'Bab' and Bahaollah also read some books. Don't you think so? What is wrong in reading books? Even Rama and Krishna studied in schools. Rama with Valmiki and Krishna with Sandeepani. It is all 'leela', - world play.

I love reading their books, that is for sure. So much to read.

In light of this OP, if Jesus has turned up, then it is up to each of us to consider the claim and make our choice. That is the way it has always been.

I wish for all humanity the best of choices and naught but Love. :)

Regards Tony
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
They (the Mahdi, Jesus, Elijah, Enoch, Khidr etc) will do miracles, and cities will be tried with plagues and afflictions like in the past to see if they rebel or accept the Messengers.

Any city who tries to lock Jesus up probably will end up destroyed by God.
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
They (the Mahdi, Jesus, Elijah, Enoch, Khidr etc) will do miracles, and cities will be tried with plagues and afflictions like in the past to see if they rebel or accept the Messengers.

Any city who tries to lock Jesus up probably will end up destroyed by God.

Well that helps the Bab and Baha'u'llah's Cause greatly. IMHO

Thank you for that insight.

Regards Tony
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Would he end up in a mental institution rather than have been executed?

if the Jesus of the bible showed up he wouldn’t have to listen to anyone’s **** he could zap you and you wouldn’t even be history,

jesus_crazy.jpg
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
They (the Mahdi, Jesus, Elijah, Enoch, Khidr etc) will do miracles, and cities will be tried with plagues and afflictions like in the past to see if they rebel or accept the Messengers.

Any city who tries to lock Jesus up probably will end up destroyed by God.

But if Jesus was locked up in a city and got destroyed it wouldn’t that be a problem for Jesus,just saying.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Would he end up in a mental institution rather than have been executed?

jesus_crazy.jpg

Interesting, translations that I have, don’t speak of family.

The multitude came together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread. When his friends heard it, they went out to seize him: for they said, "He is insane."
Mark 3:20-21

But, I think world leaders are evil. Maybe they could send him in mental hospital, where he would heal the people and after that the leaders probably would kill him, because he just doesn’t submit to their tyranny.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
As I recall, Jesus has the ability to rise from the dead.
A good question from 32000+ Pauline-Christianity denominations including JWs and Latter-Day-Saints aka Mormons, please.
I understand that just in USA the Mormons have amassed 100 billions dollars in the name of Jesus' Second Coming to welcome him, not to mention other denominations. If Jesus had the ability to rise from the physical , material and real dead, which to me he never had such and ability, then they could assure Jesus that money will be no-problem for him , he could rise from the dead with his mother and the twelve.
But Jesus was a humble servant of God/Allah/YHVH, he did not die on the Cross by the mercy of God/Allah/YHVH, he survived and migrated from Judea out the hands of Jews and Romans after treatment of his injuries on the Cross in the tomb Joseph of Arimathea.

Right?

Regards
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Second Coming of Jesus has already taken place and Armageddon/Rapture has already started. Paarsurrey post #101above refers.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
A good question from 32000+ Pauline-Christianity denominations including JWs and Latter-Day-Saints aka Mormons, please.
I understand that just in USA the Mormons have amassed 100 billions dollars in the name of Jesus' Second Coming to welcome him, not to mention other denominations. If Jesus had the ability to rise from the physical , material and real dead, which to me he never had such and ability, then they could assure Jesus that money will be no-problem for him , he could rise from the dead with his mother and the twelve.
But Jesus was a humble servant of God/Allah/YHVH, he did not die on the Cross by the mercy of God/Allah/YHVH, he survived and migrated from Judea out the hands of Jews and Romans after treatment of his injuries on the Cross in the tomb Joseph of Arimathea.

Right?

Regards
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Second Coming of Jesus has already taken place and Armageddon/Rapture has already started. Paarsurrey post #101above refers.

Ok, I've not a dog in the hunt but I suspect the truth isn't going to be decided by a debate amongst men.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Most all people look at the Bible as a guide to history, science, economics, meteorology, geology, and virtually anything and everything else that they can find that they can use to point a finger at someone else.

I wonder where those kinds of people go, to get spiritual information, about how to look inside and fix the ills within themselves. Perhaps that’s the problem, they think they have nothing to fix, so it becomes necessary to fix everybody else.

You have a stereotype view of Christianity.
And as Christiaity slowly sinks in the West these sorts of views will dominate.
Christianity begins with yourself - always. Jesus said to first remove the beam
out of YOUR eye before trying to remove the splinter in someone elses eye.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
You have a stereotype view of Christianity.
And as Christiaity slowly sinks in the West these sorts of views will dominate.
Christianity begins with yourself - always. Jesus said to first remove the beam
out of YOUR eye before trying to remove the splinter in someone elses eye.
Please view:

Percentage of Christians who attend church at least once a week (in the West)

Church attendance - Wikipedia

Regards
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If humans say they need a man human to prove them wrong in science practices claiming by human evidences life sacrifice that he was the Christ you would need to assert the meaning.

CH gases arise out of gods stone became immaculate by holy mother womb. Past history thesis support of life.

No science or calculated condition. Immaculate the holy mother is not Sophia.

Then the sun attacked sacrificed gods holy spirit. Holy womb once again dealt with the event voided sacrifice in vacuum. Holy mother not Sophia again.

Life gets sacrificed as science wanted to enforce the immaculate light constant for scientific Alchemy practices. Nuclear destruction.

Against holy mother immaculate.

So we teach we live by holy Christ and holy Christ consciousness. Conditions.

Science changes the space womb ownership as the inheritor only. Man is not the Inheritor God O earth was.

We teach no man is God you don't own that holy body the space womb does.

Gases.

God body is the stone. Holy Inheritor is spirit. Spirit gases keep our life holy and safe. So we say symbolic the son of God saves our life. Presence of spirit.

A human natural teaching.

Scientist removed its holy position natural to practice human sciences.

So we said Christ is one body mass sacrificed was taught title Jesus. Sacrificed attacked life. Christ body gone.

Christ as mass however still existing. Warning signs body taken away. Life changes we lose life body blood holiness.

So Jesus is placed as a name before Christ as a notation of attack as man life is after Christ and not before.

Christ being the holy title.
As it was a teaching.

Science tried to define Jesus as a science meaning for science. It was never science is was reasoning about why Christ mass was removed. Why winter ice was melting.

Science satanisms as science uses melt in science beginning with Alchemy.

Mineral is one body of spirit supporting our life. Science melted it.

Water oxygen another life support. Science mass evaporated it.

Reasoning nuclear does not begin owning water oxygen life.

The Jesus teaching.

Did we want life sacrifice to recur to re see the phenomena of warnings?

I never did I thought science cruel and heartless.

The difference between accepting sacrificed life to knowing it was wrong.
 
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