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If man's power is nothing, why worship Allah?

Anthem

Active Member
As the title says.

Even though man's doing are all for nothing, why is it so impprtant to be a perfect muslim?

It says so in the translation of the meaning and commentary of the holy Quran; that man's power is nothing so he should put his faith to allah.

And probably many other places.

This can be applied to many religions and those also may say what they think.

But in christianity i don't so often see so much "worshipping" in texts as with Islam + the source, so I speak of allah here.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
As the title says.

Even though man's doing are all for nothing, why is it so impprtant to be a perfect muslim?

It says so in the translation of the meaning and commentary of the holy Quran; that man's power is nothing so he should put his faith to allah.

And probably many other places.

This can be applied to many religions and those also may say what they think.

But in christianity i don't so often see so much "worshipping" in texts as with Islam + the source, so I speak of allah here.

I think a lot of religions teach an idea of humility towards God. Though usually that humility is really directed toward those folks claiming to have the authority to speak for God.
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I think a lot of religions teach an idea of humility towards God. Though usually that humility is really directed toward those folks claiming to have the authority to speak for God.

There's a difference between humility though and humiliation. The Quran basically regards human beings as worthless unless they throw their lives away. No joke, there is a passage about how a person who just wants to be safe at home will be punished.

Given that, it's not so much worship as a sort of Machiavellian "better to be feared than loved" thing. But I've never agreed with that sentiment. It's parallel to a battered woman defending an abuser or Stockholm Syndrome.

A God should be worthy of worship. Awe is an important aspect of this, as is fear, but a deity truly worth worship, is worshiped because their followers know they can pray and have prayers answered.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
There's a difference between humility though and humiliation. The Quran basically regards human beings as worthless unless they throw their lives away. No joke, there is a passage about how a person who just wants to be safe at home will be punished.

Given that, it's not so much worship as a sort of Machiavellian "better to be feared than loved" thing. But I've never agreed with that sentiment. It's parallel to a battered woman defending an abuser or Stockholm Syndrome.

A God should be worthy of worship. Awe is an important aspect of this, as is fear, but a deity truly worth worship, is worshiped because their followers know they can pray and have prayers answered.
Christianity teaches much the same. It was Jesus who introduced the notion of an eternal hell into the Bible and you're supposed to "die to Christ" and remake yourself to his liking. You're supposed to love God and Jesus so much that your love for your family should seem like hate. He even encouraged a man to join his wandering band of followers instead of burying his dead father. At least Islam allows you to have a family life. Lol
 

PuerAzaelis

Unknown Friend
Even though man's doing are all for nothing, why is it so impprtant to be a perfect muslim?

God governs the world by authority, and not by force. If this were not so, there would be neither freedom nor law in the world; and the first three petitions of the Lord's Prayer (Pater Noster): "Sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua sicut in caelo et in terra", would lose all meaning. He who prays these petitions does so solely with the purpose of affirming and increasing divine authority and not divine power. The God who is almighty - not virtually but actually - has no need at all to be petitioned that his reign may come and that his will may be done. The meaning of this prayer is that God is powerful only in so far as his authority is freely recognised and accepted. Prayer is the act of such recognition and acceptance. One is free to be believing or unbelieving. Nothing and no one can compel us to have faith-no scientific discovery, no logical argument, no physical torture can force us to believe, i.e. to freely recognise and accept the authority of God.
 

W3bcrowf3r

Active Member
As the title says.

Even though man's doing are all for nothing, why is it so impprtant to be a perfect muslim?

It says so in the translation of the meaning and commentary of the holy Quran; that man's power is nothing so he should put his faith to allah.

And probably many other places.

This can be applied to many religions and those also may say what they think.

But in christianity i don't so often see so much "worshipping" in texts as with Islam + the source, so I speak of allah here.

It's better for us. Adam and Eve were eating from the forbidden fruit because they thought they knew better then God. The whole point is, that we trust in God if we want the better since God is smarter then us and knows the present, past and future. The Power of God can't even be Imagined, so why shouldn't it be Wise to put Faith in Hes Power?

All these galaxies, planets etc. with immense power. And we are not even talking about the Angels who can travel through other dimensions and take a human form etc.
And even then, that can't even be compared to the Power of God since He is God.

Putting Faith in God who Created Everything is actually a smart thing. What does the Holy Spirit in the Quran, Gospel, Psalms, Torah etc. say? Love God, Love your Neighbor, that's how easy the Message is. Nobody can deny that such a Message is Good.

Anyways, watch out for the organised religions and their translations. You don't want to base your belief on translations and what the people say in name of God, the Messengers and the Message.
 

Anthem

Active Member
God governs the world by authority, and not by force. If this were not so, there would be neither freedom nor law in the world; and the first three petitions of the Lord's Prayer (Pater Noster): "Sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua sicut in caelo et in terra", would lose all meaning. He who prays these petitions does so solely with the purpose of affirming and increasing divine authority and not divine power. The God who is almighty - not virtually but actually - has no need at all to be petitioned that his reign may come and that his will may be done. The meaning of this prayer is that God is powerful only in so far as his authority is freely recognised and accepted. Prayer is the act of such recognition and acceptance. One is free to be believing or unbelieving. Nothing and no one can compel us to have faith-no scientific discovery, no logical argument, no physical torture can force us to believe, i.e. to freely recognise and accept the authority of God.
I assume you are not speaking from the point of view of Islam since god to them is all powerful whether one accepts him or not.
 
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