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If the Democrats want to replace Biden for their POTUS 2024 candidate, why don't they simply switch their support over to RFK Jr?

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
I'm not a Democrat, but I am curious about why Democrats who want to replace Biden as their POTUS 2024 candidate, don't simply switch their support for RFK Jr. It seems like switching support for him would be the solution for the problem of finding a replacement.

Is it more important to them that Biden be their candidate, or is it more important to them that Trump isn't re-elected?

I don't get why Democrats who want to ditch Biden don't seem to be interested in taking advantage of this seemingly simple solution.

Do Democrats object to having RFK Jr. as their candidate & if so, what exactly is the reason?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I'm not a Democrat, but I am curious about why Democrats who want to replace Biden as their POTUS 2024 candidate, don't simply switch their support for RFK Jr. It seems like switching support for him would be the solution for the problem of finding a replacement.

Is it more important to them that Biden be their candidate, or is it more important to them that Trump isn't re-elected?

I don't get why Democrats who want to ditch Biden don't seem to be interested in taking advantage of this seemingly simple solution.

Do Democrats object to having RFK Jr. as their candidate & if so, what exactly is the reason?
Have you seen his polling numbers? He couldn't win against Donald Duck.

And yes, keeping Trump from winning is the most important thing -- if Americans wish to remain Americans.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I'm not a Democrat, but I am curious about why Democrats who want to replace Biden as their POTUS 2024 candidate, don't simply switch their support for RFK Jr. It seems like switching support for him would be the solution for the problem of finding a replacement.
First, RFK solves no problems. He has serious issues himself. Second, he has many absurd beliefs that will never attract democrats. Third, too many are focusing on the candidates and not the platforms and agendas. There's as much reason to worry about Trump's decline in the next few years as Bioden's, and this race should focus on what the campaigns offer. As it is Biden is doing a good job, with a good economy and a stock market going up and up.
Is it more important to them that Biden be their candidate, or is it more important to them that Trump isn't re-elected?
Realize that electing Biden/Harris will just maintain what already exists as an administration's work. Trump offers rather troubling plans that will be very disruptive to the government, society, and the economy. Trump poses a threat that has to be defeated. It's not just a matter of different core policies, Trump's project 2025 is plan for trouble. The plan includes firing many long term government employees with people loyal to Trump. That is a core deviation ffrom government employees being loyal to the USA. And the extimate is about 50,000 government workers being fired and replaced, and such a disruption would certainly cause confusion and fear among government employees. There could be lawsuits for unjustified termination.
I don't get why Democrats who want to ditch Biden don't seem to be interested in taking advantage of this seemingly simple solution.
You're confused why switching one candidate with cognitive problems with another isn't attractive? **staff edit**
Do Democrats object to having RFK Jr. as their candidate & if so, what exactly is the reason?
Brain worm, his ideas are not coherent or consistent if you've followed any of his interviews, he is a conspiracy theorist and an anti-vaxxer which goes against basic democratic attitudes. Notice his approval is very weak as it is, and you don;t understand why democrats don't take him on? Harris is a vastly better option if they decide to drop Biden.

Biden has stated that he is committed to moving forward, so this issue is irrelevant.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
I'm not a Democrat, but I am curious about why Democrats who want to replace Biden as their POTUS 2024 candidate, don't simply switch their support for RFK Jr. It seems like switching support for him would be the solution for the problem of finding a replacement.

Is it more important to them that Biden be their candidate, or is it more important to them that Trump isn't re-elected?

I don't get why Democrats who want to ditch Biden don't seem to be interested in taking advantage of this seemingly simple solution.

Do Democrats object to having RFK Jr. as their candidate & if so, what exactly is the reason?
Because he's not a democrat. He's a Trojan Horse.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Unrealistic hyperbole alert from the great nation of Canada.
For what ought to be obvious reasons, what happens in the Excited States has major impacts on Canada. As a consequence, we watch more carefully than you might imagine.

No doubt you've heard nothing about it, but from Donald Trump's own mouth he has issued dire warnings about what you can expect if he is re-elected.

Trump's platform calls for the vast expansion of presidential powers and the executive branch over every part of the federal government. In campaign speeches, Trump stated that he would centralize government power under his authority, replace career federal civil service employees with political loyalists, and use the military for domestic law enforcement and the deportation of immigrants. In Trump v. United States, Trump has argued that the Constitution allows for absolute immunity for all presidential actions taken—even if criminal—unless the Senate successfully votes to impeach.​
Trump has called to bring independent agencies such as the Federal Communications Commission and Federal Trade Commission under direct presidential control. Trump's allies have drafted an executive order requiring all independent agencies to submit actions to the White House for review. Trump has called for presidential authority to 'impound' funds for Congressionally appropriated programs, a practice which was outlawed under President Richard Nixon. Trump promised to order the Justice Department to investigate political rivals and Joe Biden, and fire Attorneys General who disobeyed him. Trump has called for stripping employment protections for thousands of career civil service employees and replacing them with political loyalists if deemed an 'obstacle to his agenda' within federal agencies, the United States Intelligence Community, State Department, and Department of Defense. Trump has proposed instituting a new civil service test of his own creation to test the loyalty of federal workers. Trump has promised to crack down on whistleblowers who are shielded by law and create an independent body to "monitor" intelligence agencies. Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign - Wikipedia.​
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
For what ought to be obvious reasons, what happens in the Excited States has major impacts on Canada. As a consequence, we watch more carefully than you might imagine.

No doubt you've heard nothing about it, but from Donald Trump's own mouth he has issued dire warnings about what you can expect if he is re-elected.

Trump's platform calls for the vast expansion of presidential powers and the executive branch over every part of the federal government. In campaign speeches, Trump stated that he would centralize government power under his authority, replace career federal civil service employees with political loyalists, and use the military for domestic law enforcement and the deportation of immigrants. In Trump v. United States, Trump has argued that the Constitution allows for absolute immunity for all presidential actions taken—even if criminal—unless the Senate successfully votes to impeach.​
Trump has called to bring independent agencies such as the Federal Communications Commission and Federal Trade Commission under direct presidential control. Trump's allies have drafted an executive order requiring all independent agencies to submit actions to the White House for review. Trump has called for presidential authority to 'impound' funds for Congressionally appropriated programs, a practice which was outlawed under President Richard Nixon. Trump promised to order the Justice Department to investigate political rivals and Joe Biden, and fire Attorneys General who disobeyed him. Trump has called for stripping employment protections for thousands of career civil service employees and replacing them with political loyalists if deemed an 'obstacle to his agenda' within federal agencies, the United States Intelligence Community, State Department, and Department of Defense. Trump has proposed instituting a new civil service test of his own creation to test the loyalty of federal workers. Trump has promised to crack down on whistleblowers who are shielded by law and create an independent body to "monitor" intelligence agencies. Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign - Wikipedia.​
Magas want a king sent by
God to rule with an iron fist.
But Christians might discover
that his godly law isn't theirs.
 
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anotherneil

Well-Known Member
Thank you for clearing things up, to those who have posted up to this point.

Evidently the Democrats have their list of reasons for not wanting to switch over to RFK Jr.

In that case, it seems like it'll remain Biden vs. Trump, and with Biden being in this situation where the Democrats want to replace him yet don't seem to have much recourse or a solution for how to do this, it's starting to look like Trump may have already won this round & will be headed for the White House next year.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
with Biden being in this situation where the Democrats want to replace him
The majority doesn't want him replaced. You're focusing on a minority position. Biden doesn't need to be replaced to win the election.
Nothing new was learned during the debate, nothing changed.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
For what ought to be obvious reasons, what happens in the Excited States has major impacts on Canada. As a consequence, we watch more carefully than you might imagine.

No doubt you've heard nothing about it, but from Donald Trump's own mouth he has issued dire warnings about what you can expect if he is re-elected.

Trump's platform calls for the vast expansion of presidential powers and the executive branch over every part of the federal government. In campaign speeches, Trump stated that he would centralize government power under his authority, replace career federal civil service employees with political loyalists, and use the military for domestic law enforcement and the deportation of immigrants. In Trump v. United States, Trump has argued that the Constitution allows for absolute immunity for all presidential actions taken—even if criminal—unless the Senate successfully votes to impeach.​
Trump has called to bring independent agencies such as the Federal Communications Commission and Federal Trade Commission under direct presidential control. Trump's allies have drafted an executive order requiring all independent agencies to submit actions to the White House for review. Trump has called for presidential authority to 'impound' funds for Congressionally appropriated programs, a practice which was outlawed under President Richard Nixon. Trump promised to order the Justice Department to investigate political rivals and Joe Biden, and fire Attorneys General who disobeyed him. Trump has called for stripping employment protections for thousands of career civil service employees and replacing them with political loyalists if deemed an 'obstacle to his agenda' within federal agencies, the United States Intelligence Community, State Department, and Department of Defense. Trump has proposed instituting a new civil service test of his own creation to test the loyalty of federal workers. Trump has promised to crack down on whistleblowers who are shielded by law and create an independent body to "monitor" intelligence agencies. Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign - Wikipedia.​
Another words, a bunch of blown out of proportion conspiracy theories based on Trump's presidential campaign.

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Don't confuse Christians with MAGAs. They aren't necessarily the same.
Aye, not identical.
But....
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
@Revoltingest, well, I am a Christian and definitely not for Trump (or Biden). Most people I know and associate with are not for either one.

Your own article says that white conservative evangelicals are the bedrock of the movement for Trump. None of the articles even says that all, or even most, Christians are MAGAs because they definitely are not. I for one refuse to be lumped into that bunch.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
@Revoltingest, well, I am a Christian and definitely not for Trump (or Biden). Most people I know and associate with are not for either one.

Your own article says that white conservative evangelicals are the bedrock of the movement for Trump. None of the articles even says that all, or even most, Christians are MAGAs because they definitely are not. I for one refuse to be lumped into that bunch.
Always stand up for yourself.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It seems king has been brought up quite a bit lately.

Q.... Are kings/queens a bad thing?
One could always have a good King and would be great, but unfortunately along the line there's bound to be a bad King or two, and that would be awful like that Long Shanks fella was aka King Edward the 3rd, followed by his horrendously inept son if I remember my history correctly.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It seems king has been brought up quite a bit lately.

Q.... Are kings/queens a bad thing?
For people who prefer an all powerful monarch,
no problem. But there are risks to granting such
power.
Pol Pot
Kim Jong Un
Mao Zedong
Fidel Castro
Joseph Stalin
Vlad Putin
Idi Amin

It's only a bad think if you run afoul of them.
And once established in power, elections
(if any) will favor their remaining in power.
 
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