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If this pandemic/pestilece is a sign of the end..next sign is in the heavens

dad

Undefeated
Nah, you said:

"There is always the reality that believers should be prepared to be wrong."

Are you a believer? Are you prepared to be wrong? If you say no, then your post 126 was a lie.
Not wrong about everything and anything. Context. In discussing the minutia of prophecy, one should be prepared to be wrong. It goes without saying that when discussing absolute revealed truth from God in Scripture that He is not wrong. For example creation. That is absolute.
Sorry to interrupt your spam and misdirection...carry on.
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Not wrong about everything and anything. Context. In discussing the minutia of prophecy, one should be prepared to be wrong. It goes without saying that when discussing absolute revealed truth from God in Scripture that He is not wrong. For example creation. That is absolute.
Sorry to interrupt your spam and misdirection...carry on.

If you backpedal any faster, you'd go back in time.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Water owns a natural spatial cold history.....as a pressurized cooling inheritance, where it began as a Holy body. Why we claim Mother space womb is Holy, it formed the Holy life protection water.

Why particular terms are inferred.

Gas stone history was once cooled in space and owned natural light, a long time before the Sun burst and attacked it.

For O o natural bodies sit in their owned placement as a body in space. The sun was being a sun, the Earth was being the Earth. The sun cooling however blasted out the gases that equalled creation/form of stone in spatial pressure. As asteroids, comets and meteor mass. Then burnt hotter for metals.

Which attacked Earth.

So microbes were formed a long time ago in natural stone gas history, and those gases then went cold and without light. Why microbial life formation owned bodies that lived in darkness.....by natural history.

What science ignored as being relevant. The Sun only removed natural cold gas evolution back to spatial burning gas history. The heavenly body got sacrificed which is what science stated. Its spirit...the gases.

So a whole lot of microbes were removed by that attack.

Microbes exist naturally in water until they get irradiated changed, and convert into the virus. But its origins is a microbe. So then that body, the virus tries to transform itself back into its higher original form.

Due to the conditions of water, water mass, evaporation and replacement of water mass....as natural conditions in water.

So a virus attacks differently due to its form....but a flu also attacks the life. Normally both go away, as water vibration changes naturally, unless some form of science applied constant mechanism does not allow the vibration to change.

By holding and transmitting incorrect signals through water.

So as the virus tries to heal itself back into its natural higher form and it cannot heal itself, the virus then changes form...and attacks differently.

Why Nature states that it personally as a history owns the causes of all balances being maintained.

Now if humans are holding unnatural constant signalling in the natural water body mass....then that virus in Nature will simply kill us off, so that natural balances can be maintained. As it gets rid of the cause....being humans in science.

We always taught self that human sciences did not own nor control natural.

The Bible prophecy said that the Temple communicating pyramid systems were shut off for a purpose. And they also knew that the visiting UFO radiation mass was owner of removing water off the Earth...so Ice mass was slowly changing as replacement.

So even though ICE MASS melted and put back atmospheric water, due to the irradiation effect they could predict that the sacrifice and attack on our cellular life would return.

33AD death of cellular blood/body sacrificed.....to 1000 years later.
1033
March 20Halley's Comet reaches perihelion. Its appearance is subsequently recorded in the Bayeux Tapestry.

Reviewed status, the Saviour wandering star kept life healthy.
1066
1066 Granada massacre - Wikipedia

To rebuild the Temple pyramid technology, which meant the Temple had to be rebuilt in the Hebrew vicinity.
1099
Science Notes – Leprosy in medieval England - Current Archaeology

Siege of Jerusalem (1099) - Wikipedia

Fight against transmitted radiation/radio waves for transmutation was proven to be the life attacker, whenever the science was fought to be reintroduced. What the history of fighting against Satanic cause was about.

320px-Shroudofturin.jpg
coronavirus-us-officials-start-screening-for-illness-u-m-experts-can-discuss-LEAD.jpg


Shroud of Turin - Wikipedia

Medical Genetic healer visionary information. As a spiritual Healer, when I practiced the status of meditative visionary healing I could see the effects as relayed back in visions. How medical advice was once accessed without modern day technologies. Most healers would agree.

Fact of the world system of natural water evaporation and Iced mass, removal due to too much Sun radiation, due to science causes. How it affects the microbial population in natural water holy conditions. The virus owns a similar encoded attack in the cells, as a form of trumpet like signal outcome.

24 is O God Earth natural balances 12 light and 12 cold night time to effectively own cooling of burnt gases during the day as the sacrifice. To be balanced.
Notification medical advice as studied in timed conditions meaning of Chronicle
'>2 Chronicles 23:13


She looked, and behold, the king was standing by his pillar at the entrance, and the captains and the trumpeters were beside the king. And all the people of the land rejoiced and blew trumpets, the singers with their musical instruments leading the praise. Then Athaliah tore her clothes and said, “Treason! Treason!”


'>Jeremiah 6:1


“Flee for safety, O sons of Benjamin,
From the midst of Jerusalem!
Now blow a trumpet in Tekoa
And raise a signal over Beth-haccerem;
For evil looks down from the north,
And a great destruction.

Meaning 24 O natural balances at the North point not gained due to radiation signalling changes in the spirit of the Heavenly body.

How it had been explained.

As the effect of blood and cell body sacrificed as the Shroud proved...the event was revisited as the applied technology of the ancients in civilization was always sought.

The wars in ancient days were fought relating to the rebuilding of the science Temple attacking communications, several times historically if anyone cared to reason about what the bible was teaching in the science community.
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

*banned*
Simple. Verse 4 would not probably be about the very end when we see in verse 6 that is still is talking about NOT being the end yet!

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

The end is just that, the end. The 7 year Tribulation is the final 7 years. The end is the end of that 7 year period. Those things described in (24:4-14) take place at the beginning of the Tribulation, the first 3 and 1/2 years. These are the beginning of sorrows. (24:8)

The middle of the Tribulation is identified, as you agree, in (Matt. 24:15) as the time when the abomination is set up in the Temple. (Daniel 9:27) The last half of the Tribulation, the last 3 and 1/2 years, is identified in (Matt. 24:21-28). After that Christ returns to set up the Kingdom. (Matt. 24:29-31)

I believe this time line is sound.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

dad

Undefeated
The end is just that, the end. The 7 year Tribulation is the final 7 years. The end is the end of that 7 year period. Those things described in (24:4-14) take place at the beginning of the Tribulation, the first 3 and 1/2 years. These are the beginning of sorrows. (24:8)

The middle of the Tribulation is identified, as you agree, in (Matt. 24:15) as the time when the abomination is set up in the Temple. (Daniel 9:27) The last half of the Tribulation, the last 3 and 1/2 years, is identified in (Matt. 24:21-28). After that Christ returns to set up the Kingdom. (Matt. 24:29-31)

I believe this time line is sound.

Good-Ole-Rebel
I see. OK.

Yet the verse after the five signs mentions all these are the beginning of sorrows.

Guess we'll find out one day. Cheers
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Water owns a natural spatial cold history.....as a pressurized cooling inheritance, where it began as a Holy body. Why we claim Mother space womb is Holy, it formed the Holy life protection water.

Why particular terms are inferred.

Gas stone history was once cooled in space and owned natural light, a long time before the Sun burst and attacked it.

For O o natural bodies sit in their owned placement as a body in space. The sun was being a sun, the Earth was being the Earth. The sun cooling however blasted out the gases that equalled creation/form of stone in spatial pressure. As asteroids, comets and meteor mass. Then burnt hotter for metals.

Which attacked Earth.

So microbes were formed a long time ago in natural stone gas history, and those gases then went cold and without light. Why microbial life formation owned bodies that lived in darkness.....by natural history.

What science ignored as being relevant. The Sun only removed natural cold gas evolution back to spatial burning gas history. The heavenly body got sacrificed which is what science stated. Its spirit...the gases.

So a whole lot of microbes were removed by that attack.

Microbes exist naturally in water until they get irradiated changed, and convert into the virus. But its origins is a microbe. So then that body, the virus tries to transform itself back into its higher original form.

Due to the conditions of water, water mass, evaporation and replacement of water mass....as natural conditions in water.

So a virus attacks differently due to its form....but a flu also attacks the life. Normally both go away, as water vibration changes naturally, unless some form of science applied constant mechanism does not allow the vibration to change.

By holding and transmitting incorrect signals through water.

So as the virus tries to heal itself back into its natural higher form and it cannot heal itself, the virus then changes form...and attacks differently.

Why Nature states that it personally as a history owns the causes of all balances being maintained.

Now if humans are holding unnatural constant signalling in the natural water body mass....then that virus in Nature will simply kill us off, so that natural balances can be maintained. As it gets rid of the cause....being humans in science.

We always taught self that human sciences did not own nor control natural.

The Bible prophecy said that the Temple communicating pyramid systems were shut off for a purpose. And they also knew that the visiting UFO radiation mass was owner of removing water off the Earth...so Ice mass was slowly changing as replacement.

So even though ICE MASS melted and put back atmospheric water, due to the irradiation effect they could predict that the sacrifice and attack on our cellular life would return.

33AD death of cellular blood/body sacrificed.....to 1000 years later.
1033
March 20Halley's Comet reaches perihelion. Its appearance is subsequently recorded in the Bayeux Tapestry.

Reviewed status, the Saviour wandering star kept life healthy.
1066
1066 Granada massacre - Wikipedia

To rebuild the Temple pyramid technology, which meant the Temple had to be rebuilt in the Hebrew vicinity.
1099
Science Notes – Leprosy in medieval England - Current Archaeology

Siege of Jerusalem (1099) - Wikipedia

Fight against transmitted radiation/radio waves for transmutation was proven to be the life attacker, whenever the science was fought to be reintroduced. What the history of fighting against Satanic cause was about.

320px-Shroudofturin.jpg
coronavirus-us-officials-start-screening-for-illness-u-m-experts-can-discuss-LEAD.jpg


Shroud of Turin - Wikipedia

Medical Genetic healer visionary information. As a spiritual Healer, when I practiced the status of meditative visionary healing I could see the effects as relayed back in visions. How medical advice was once accessed without modern day technologies. Most healers would agree.

Fact of the world system of natural water evaporation and Iced mass, removal due to too much Sun radiation, due to science causes. How it affects the microbial population in natural water holy conditions. The virus owns a similar encoded attack in the cells, as a form of trumpet like signal outcome.

24 is O God Earth natural balances 12 light and 12 cold night time to effectively own cooling of burnt gases during the day as the sacrifice. To be balanced.
Notification medical advice as studied in timed conditions meaning of Chronicle
'>2 Chronicles 23:13


She looked, and behold, the king was standing by his pillar at the entrance, and the captains and the trumpeters were beside the king. And all the people of the land rejoiced and blew trumpets, the singers with their musical instruments leading the praise. Then Athaliah tore her clothes and said, “Treason! Treason!”


'>Jeremiah 6:1


“Flee for safety, O sons of Benjamin,
From the midst of Jerusalem!
Now blow a trumpet in Tekoa
And raise a signal over Beth-haccerem;
For evil looks down from the north,
And a great destruction.

Meaning 24 O natural balances at the North point not gained due to radiation signalling changes in the spirit of the Heavenly body.

How it had been explained.

As the effect of blood and cell body sacrificed as the Shroud proved...the event was revisited as the applied technology of the ancients in civilization was always sought.

The wars in ancient days were fought relating to the rebuilding of the science Temple attacking communications, several times historically if anyone cared to reason about what the bible was teaching in the science community.

Shroud of Turin?

Where's the image of the top of his head?
 

dad

Undefeated
Maybe you could use them to find some evidence for your claims.
The bible does mention pandemics or pestilences in the end-time period. Would you like evidence there have been some?

The end time started in Jesus' day. He came to fulfill all things. As the thread has highlighted, there are some distinct signs that come after the last seven years period begins. There are some signs listed that mark the beginning of that time of sorrows. There are some signs that happen before that time of sorrows (seven-year period.)

Since the group of signs that kick off this period start with war, it looks like this particular pestilence is not in that group. This pandemic does impact the world so much that many people feel that it may be preparing the way. This is how I view it at the moment.
Not sure what you are doing in the thread since it doesn't seem you have anything to contribute.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
At the young age of 75 :rolleyes:, I've lived through numerous claims about the world coming to an end, and yet even today I still have to pay taxes.

When it happens, it happens-- thus I ain't losing any sleep over it.
 

dad

Undefeated
At the young age of 75 :rolleyes:, I've lived through numerous claims about the world coming to an end, and yet even today I still have to pay taxes.

When it happens, it happens-- thus I ain't losing any sleep over it.
Me either. Fortunately, we have a map of the timeline. We do not know when that last seven year period starts. The thread here discusses the possibility that there are five specific signs that will herald the time when it begins. The signs in the three gospels are War, (famine, pestilence, earthquakes) and great signs in the heavens.

We do know the last time started in the days of Jesus, and the early church. The last week of Daniel (the last seven years of world history) is still to come.
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
The bible does mention pandemics or pestilences in the end-time period. Would you like evidence there have been some?

So what? Doesn't take a genius to say that there will be diseases. There's always some disease. It's like me predicting that some time within 24 hours you will feel sleepy.

The end time started in Jesus' day. He came to fulfill all things. As the thread has highlighted, there are some distinct signs that come after the last seven years period begins. There are some signs listed that mark the beginning of that time of sorrows. There are some signs that happen before that time of sorrows (seven-year period.)

It's been two thousand years, what's taking so long?

Since the group of signs that kick off this period start with war, it looks like this particular pestilence is not in that group. This pandemic does impact the world so much that many people feel that it may be preparing the way. This is how I view it at the moment.

There's always been some kind of war going on somewhere.

Not sure what you are doing in the thread since it doesn't seem you have anything to contribute.

Just pointing out that your predictions of the end of the world will be as wrong as everyone who has ever predicted it before you.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Ask yourself if the Bible was a scientific statement based on mind statements today about "how to" as a formula, then you are wrong.

The Old and New prove that the evaluated naming event was different in both situations of practicing nuclear changes.

The origin of science was and is notified to self to be the formula for self removal...otherwise the stories about the pyramid and the King would not exist about his removal and return.

Transmutation is stated to be the modern day theories...about knowledge in radiation fusion to convert matter into gold. For it was their commodity in the ancient times, just as they demonstrated to everyone.

See the NAME....trans and mutation.

So science today says, yes that formula belongs with and is due to mutation.

As if they are talking about what evil is in human life. Yet it is not evil, it is human life sacrificed cause and effect.

Just the minds who theory are evil by intent and belief and motivation. As individual thinkers and selves.

The reality is, consciousness is conscious. And first we are all natural, original and spiritual.

Then you choose to do science.

Then science irradiates all life and attacks, causes it to mutate.

So our brother, the spiritual life realized that the scientist knew by his word usage as an equals answer that if he did that form of science he would mutate life.

Why they had secret organizations to deal with that sort of mentality, for that sort of mind believes in human destruction for self gain...always had.

And there is no healing that form of mentality...for it is based on civilization, which is a choice and what you believe you represent as a human in civilization.

So you cannot blame the evil spirit for your own human choices.

The reality of what you have to face in human life, minds who have non stop lied ever since destroyer science was invented.

If you ask spirit questions it gives correct answers. Spirit said first Nature and human form is not the form it converted into today. Spiritually it was present, physical but a non solid body.

Science ANTI of God, caused the Anti of Christ, the gases changed/converted which in turn changes the fusion of the planetary mass. How strange creatures were given from spiritual images, of cloud mass, and other out of space conditions, to entering Earth fusion in conversion the unnatural presence of a skeleton, as if skeletons visited Earth.

If you as a human spirit, how did you get bones as a whole body inside of a bio life cellular body? The answer is penetrating radiation converted the inside of the spirit body.

If after conversion and attack on mountains, you find evidence that some strange skeletal types of bodies are formed...that is your science machine answer.

Which is not any reaction is it scientist.
 

dad

Undefeated
So what? Doesn't take a genius to say that there will be diseases. There's always some disease.

The specifics in the plagues are beyond any chance. For example, grievous sores on those who take the mark of the beast. In another instance, we see strange creatures that have power to sting and cause great harm.

It's been two thousand years, what's taking so long?
Mercy. He waited for people to get saved. If He had lowered the boom before I was born I guess I would have missed out on getting saved. But there is coming the time when He will deal with this wicked world in a way no one has ever seen.
There's always been some kind of war going on somewhere.
And in the last time we live in there have been greater wars even than before Jesus came. WW2 for example.

Then in the very end we will see even greater things.

The signs do not all say the end of the world is happening! They just mark the road so we know where we are on it. Some signs are given and then He says, relax, the end is not here when you see these. Then He lists five signs and says when we see these, this is the beginning of the end. Then He gives oodles of astounding signs after the end starts. Sitting there claiming that earthquakes centuries ago were supposed to be a sign we were in the very end shows you don't know what you are talking about. You might want to try to get a little up to speed before posting again in this thread.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
A sinkhole, also known as a cenote, sink, sink-hole, swallet, swallow hole, or doline (the different terms for sinkholes are often used interchangeably), is a depression or hole in the ground caused by some form of collapse of the surface layer. Most are caused by karst processes – the chemical dissolution of carbonate rocks or suffosion processes. Jul 22 2019

History of the sacrifice of life by presence UFO body, as a replicator, the ANTI God is forming as a SIGN...and then it communicates its images into our cloud mass.

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sinkholes alberta canada - Bing images

Water saved the O God planet Earth originally. If ground irradiation was opening the stone seals, water would be evident in the ground change releases of held fusion.

Change natural water vibration the holy star pattern water microbes change, and we are a high percentile bio water body.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If you look at the images in the cloud as I have, seeing figures in them due to irradiation of my brain chemicals you will see naked human like images.

As evidence and proof that natural human everyday living imagery in natural life are being fed back and burnt in cloud reactions.

What the angel records state as evidence of warnings about Sodom and Gomorrah...for the cities on Earth are actually fed back etched building like structures in stone held fusion....if you cared to apply human logic to scientific ancient reasoning/awareness.
building-on-mountain-stock-image-2116084.jpg


Study this photo closely.

On the building side of the mountain you will see images of human like stone bodies climbing and falling below. On the light stone faced mountain body.

On the right hand side of the picture an etched fed back temple like building, as communicated back by UFO satellites. Factual evidence that it happened before.
 

dad

Undefeated
If you look at the images in the cloud as I have, seeing figures in them due to irradiation of my brain chemicals you will see naked human like images.

As evidence and proof that natural human everyday living imagery in natural life are being fed back and burnt in cloud reactions.

What the angel records state as evidence of warnings about Sodom and Gomorrah...for the cities on Earth are actually fed back etched building like structures in stone held fusion....if you cared to apply human logic to scientific ancient reasoning/awareness.
building-on-mountain-stock-image-2116084.jpg


Study this photo closely.

On the building side of the mountain you will see images of human like stone bodies climbing and falling below. On the light stone faced mountain body.

On the right hand side of the picture an etched fed back temple like building, as communicated back by UFO satellites. Factual evidence that it happened before.
Satanic spam. Coincidence?
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
The specifics in the plagues are beyond any chance. For example, grievous sores on those who take the mark of the beast. In another instance, we see strange creatures that have power to sting and cause great harm.

Sores and stinging animals. Wow, so specific, it's not like we haven't had those before.

Also, where are the "grievous sores" that only appear on non-Christians?

Mercy. He waited for people to get saved. If He had lowered the boom before I was born I guess I would have missed out on getting saved. But there is coming the time when He will deal with this wicked world in a way no one has ever seen.

Then by that logic, he's never gonna do it.

And in the last time we live in there have been greater wars even than before Jesus came. WW2 for example.

And if we wait another hundred years, the wars will be even worse. That proves nothing. It's like telling someone that they're going to die when they're the oldest they've ever been, and since they are the oldest they've ever been right now, then they're gonna die right now.

Then in the very end we will see even greater things.

Sure, okay.

The signs do not all say the end of the world is happening! They just mark the road so we know where we are on it. Some signs are given and then He says, relax, the end is not here when you see these. Then He lists five signs and says when we see these, this is the beginning of the end. Then He gives oodles of astounding signs after the end starts. Sitting there claiming that earthquakes centuries ago were supposed to be a sign we were in the very end shows you don't know what you are talking about. You might want to try to get a little up to speed before posting again in this thread.

Okay, so what are these five specific signs that will only appear when the end of the world is upon us and never at any other point?

And how long do we have to wait before these signs will appear?
 
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