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If transgressions are punished

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
If your religious tradition has a system whereby transgressions against it's rules are penalized by divine mechanism (such as in hell, the application of karma and so forth), do your institutions (both religious and religious-secular hybrids) enact secular punishment for purely religious transgressions? If so why?

Do you believe these institutions (or groups, or individuals) have the authority to do so? If so, how was the authority (to act as the agent or executor of what is god's domain) granted and what are it's extents? For arguments sake, just what is the punishment for claiming the right to act as the instrument of divine will (to take for yourself part of the role of divine) in your religious tradition?

If these institutions have the authority to act as the divine's implement of punishment, and have punished perceived transgressors, will they still be divinely punished since the transgressions have already been punished (by agents of the divine)?
 
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Orias

Left Hand Path
Any and all transgressions are punishable by the respectable laws of nature.

Whether or not its "right" or the persons claiming such a thing have a right to do so is subject to how valid these supposed laws are. If they are effective then its just a matter of experience, if they are ineffective then its a matter of a threat. And to most people, threats are a violation to any law that has an exceptional consequence regarding reward or punishment.
 

seeking4truth

Active Member
"If your religious tradition has a system whereby transgressions against it's rules are penalized by divine mechanism (such as in hell, the application of karma and so forth), do your institutions (both religious and religious-secular hybrids) enact secular punishment for purely religious transgressions? If so why? "

Breaking rules - ie sinning - has three aspects in my opinion.
1. Natural physical law. Hand in the fire has it's own punishment! These laws when broken result in physical harm - punishment here and now.
2. Social law - described by religion for the security and functioning of society for the benefit of all it's members. Unfortunately these are very often misused for the of benefit particular political or religious leaders for their own or their party's benefit.
3. Spiritual law - which are ways of behaving that benefit or harm your spiritual progress in this world and handicap you in the next. They are described by religion and refer to moral, righteous behaviour. There is some crossover as all actions are assessed on intentions even if the results are not what was planned.
 

Visionary28

Seeker of Serpent's Fruit
A so called "agent of the divine" has a right to punish as they see fit. They should keep in mind that others will punish these "agents of the divine" as they see fit. As far as these agents acting on behalf of a higher power? That is what I would call "self-serving".
 
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