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If Trump become president,what you expect?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hello

Honesly I expect that Trump will win and become a president of USA, and he very probably cause an intern voilence inside US.

-I expect that he will make a war with Iran and SK and maybe Russia.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I don't expect too much further armed hostilities, mainly because the USA are overextended as they are.

There will be further aggravation of the economic troubles, though. It will be ugly. And it will cost a lot of international good will as well.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Social/ethnic/religious minorities would be marginalized further. Trade negotiations between China would break down. Renewable energy would not be supported if it ruins the view at Trump golf courses. Factories and jobs will remain overseas.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I see a possibility of immigrant reform and a further tighting of our borders. I'd like to see attempted improvements made in domestic. and economic policy with reductions made in Goverment spending and a notable move towards downsizing of Goverment jobs deemed redundant and bloated through the process of attrition.

I'm hoping for an easing of environmental rules and regulation regarded as being overreaching and unnecessary, giving corporations more breathing room so they can grow and expand without impediment or intrusion affecting growth.

A hard long look at NAFTA and the systemic issues involving outsourcing.

I'm hoping for a simplication of the egregious mess we call a tax code and the complete elimination or significantly revised Obamacare system that's actually constitutional and equitable for everybody, and just not specific targeted groups.

Lastly, lobby and special interest reform.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I see worse obstructionism than what Obama faced. Nothing will get done, both parties will be hostile towards him, his bullying will get him no where, and if everyone in America turns off their cars, appliances, and other sources of electricity and noise, we may hear a part of the world laugh at us while the other part groans.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I see worse obstructionism than what Obama faced. Nothing will get done, both parties will be hostile towards him, his bullying will get him no where, and if everyone in America turns off their cars, appliances, and other sources of electricity and noise, we may hear a part of the world laugh at us while the other part groans.
And I will die a little on the inside.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
About as much change as when Obama was elected , just in the opposite direction. We have the house and senate. The President is limited by them, sometimes for better sometimes for worse. I would expect spending on social expenditures to go down and military spending to go up. My hope is that American jobs would increase, but only time will tell. I do not believe he will make war with Iran, and certainly not Russia.
 
I expect that he will make a war with Iran and SK and maybe Russia.

I despise Trump, but for the sake of a bit of balance and realism will look to a few positives of a Trumpocracy for those of a more liberal persuasion. As I'm not an American, I don't really care about domestic policy so will ignore that.

Relations with Russia would be better than under Hillary. Trump is unlikely to be in favour of the antagonistic policies towards Russia that have been the norm since the end of the Cold War, and seems to have less of a desire to strengthen NATO as this is a 'cost' to America.

In general Hillary is far more likely to support foreign interventionism as her record suggests, including re:Iran. Trump is likely to pursue an 'America first' foreign policy as opposed to Hillary's internationalism.

He also seems less enamoured with the free trade agreements like the TTIP/TPP/etc, that heavily favour corporate interests and have been shaped by excessive lobbying by said corporations.

With regard to banks and 'Wall Street', he hasn't personally accepted millions in bribes speaking fees like Hillary has. While he may prove no better, I'd say there is a higher likelihood of reform under Trump than Hillary.

On a similar vein, Hillary will acquiesce as usual regarding Saudi funding/promotion of terror. Maybe Trump will too, but again he is more likely to stand up to them than Hillary.

The major negative, and it is a very big one, is his hostility towards environmentalist concerns. Hillary would almost certainly be better, but I wouldn't hold a great deal of hope for her either though.

Honestly, from a 'leftish' perspective, I think he may have better positions (or the potential for them) on many international issues than Hillary. However, these are counteracted by his hostility towards environmentalism which is probably the most important issue of them all.

Neither option is particularly appealing.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
I expect a wall to be built with Mexico's money.

Then I still expect to see the same amount of illegal immigrants.

LOL
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Hello

Honesly I expect that Trump will win and become a president of USA, and he very probably cause an intern voilence inside US.

-I expect that he will make a war with Iran and SK and maybe Russia.
I make no predictions except for more than usual gnashing of teeth on all sides.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I do not believe he will make war with Iran, and certainly not Russia.
I think that the USA is more likely to wind up in a war under Trump than Clinton.

Trump is a political noob on the world stage. Hardened players from around the world will take advantage of his lack of standing, knowledge, and finesse. From China to Israel to Russia, people who know what they're doing will eat our lunch. Militarily and economically, Trump's bluster will get us involved in all sorts of disasters that a real operator would have avoided. Because he will get played by all the serious and skilled operators out there, like Putin and the Iranians.

Clinton, OTOH, is an accomplished liar and well known for her willingness to use military forces. That makes her a more credible and effective Commander in Chief.
Tom
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Trump is such a loose canon with literally no political experience that I'd be extremely reluctant to guess much of anything he might do. For example, he has changed his mind four different times just in the last week about debating Sanders. He said he wanted to raise $12 million through the debate for women's causes but apparently they're really not that important to him after all.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
The photo in the above post shows him as looking as ugly as his politics, and published views on just about everything.
How can people possibly vote for him.

he would probably not look any better with out the orange tan, unless he put his wig on backwards.

I am not a fan
can you tell?
 
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