rrobs
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NOTE: The following post is not meant to preach, proselytize, or convert anyone. It is meant to stimulate thought and discussion. It is simply what I believe God wishes to communicate to the world. I urge anyone interested to do as the Bereans did in Acts 17:11, "...searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
John 14:9,
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?
If the phrase, "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father" is taken to mean Jesus is actually God, what do we do with Luke 10:16?
Luke 10:16,
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
Using the same logic used by Trinitarians in John, wouldn't Luke indicate that we are Jesus and therefore also God? That can't be right, and it isn't.
Both verses are using a well known idiom we use all the time to this very day. From The Free Dictionary:
"seen one, seen them all"
All of these things are exactly alike; experiencing one of these things is enough to know what everything else of its kind will be like. A slangy, casual shortening of the longer phrase "when you've seen one (something), you've seen them all." Other verbs, such as "heard," "read," "done," etc. are also often used instead of "seen." The Free Dictionary
That explains everything. There is no need for us to be Jesus, and no need for Jesus (or us) to be God. When we speak Jesus' words, we are just like Jesus, but we aren't actually Jesus. When Jesus did his Father's will (which he always did) he was just like God, but he isn't actually God.
John 14:9,
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?
If the phrase, "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father" is taken to mean Jesus is actually God, what do we do with Luke 10:16?
Luke 10:16,
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
Using the same logic used by Trinitarians in John, wouldn't Luke indicate that we are Jesus and therefore also God? That can't be right, and it isn't.
Both verses are using a well known idiom we use all the time to this very day. From The Free Dictionary:
"seen one, seen them all"
All of these things are exactly alike; experiencing one of these things is enough to know what everything else of its kind will be like. A slangy, casual shortening of the longer phrase "when you've seen one (something), you've seen them all." Other verbs, such as "heard," "read," "done," etc. are also often used instead of "seen." The Free Dictionary
That explains everything. There is no need for us to be Jesus, and no need for Jesus (or us) to be God. When we speak Jesus' words, we are just like Jesus, but we aren't actually Jesus. When Jesus did his Father's will (which he always did) he was just like God, but he isn't actually God.
