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Illusion and Reality
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If it can be measured you can be pretty certain that its real
Like this (if you haven't seen it before, there is no movement)?
Mind-bending optical illusion makes stationary cubes appear to move | Metro News
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Onoma
Active Member
*has seizure*
No, seriously, very similar to that
I was thinking of wire perspective art, where a sculpture takes different form when seen from different perspectives
An example would be a wire square, it's a square from one view, a rectangle from another or a line from another
I think I know what you mean. Our brains are great at misinterpreting what our eyes see - another one (I'm rather fond of these), and I don't know if you have read any of this person's work - worth a look if not but might be dated now:
Richard Gregory - Wikipedia
Onoma
Active Member
No, actually, first time I've heard of him, thank you
I definitely think he's right about Bayesian processing in the brain though
A great indication of this is the ability of the brain to fill in the correct letters ( Typoglycemia ) when the letters in a sentence are scrambled ( As long as the first and last letters in words are in the right place, the brain can still read it , in most cases )
" Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe "
I tend to maintain the position that our brains are much more intelligent than we are
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Even illusions have a reality all their own.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
McBell
Unbound
Sometimes.
Sometimes it is the action that is the illusion whilst the forms are reality.
Sometimes both are illusory
and sometimes both are reality.
On UK TV (Freeview)? But always worth a look when such can be viewed. One reason why I've always had an interest in psychology and all things associated with such - like how we can be deceived by all the various ways our senses can do so, and also how our thinking can be askew similarly.
McBell
Unbound
your senses merely record, it is your brain that analyzes.
Thus the reason you can have five different descriptions of the same accident from three people.
temporal at best
I was meaning that we can misinterpret all our senses, even if it is the brain doing so.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Yes, form is an illusion because every form are build up by atoms protons and so on, and between all of them there is empty space, so what your physical eyes see as "solid" is in fact always moving and changing.
It counts for everything within this physical world we call universe.
McBell
Unbound
I agree.
Thus begging the question how much of the illusion is what we perceive and how much is how we analyze what we perceive?
This is of course not including the parts of reality that are perceived as illusion.
You make a lot of threads and likely cannot remember all of the replies.
Form versus action is meaningless in your question. Every action is permanently set in time, time which never ends as far as anyone can tell. Therefore action is a form, and every act is a form of its own. There are no classes of forms, nor are there separate actions (physically). All are connected like branches connect to a trunk. For example the kind man who is nice is in the same universe as the mean man who is not. We try to find similar actions and think of them in classes, but that's us.
A form is static a motion is dynamic. So no, I disagree. And yes some days I create threads and some days I just respond. I visit less than I used to