I'm a Noahide

[Desert Snake]

U certaintly reject Noah by rejecting all prophets

you wrote this incorrectly, i think. I think you mean, i reject muhammad..

yes, I do. Why that would have anything to do with rejecting Noah, is the question. The Jewish and Christian Bibles don't even have muhammad in the text.

 

[Acim]

Good luck to you on the blasphemy instruction.

 

[Desert Snake]

Noahide literally means a Gentile.

That's false. It literally can't mean ''Gentile'', specifically.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

I'm a Noahide, and listing it as such next to 'religion'.

I won't be posting in the DIR's that aren't compatible with my beliefs, so some replies may go unanswered in a couple of threads.


Deal with it.

But how will you ever give up eating from live animals??

 

[Tumah]

Since your religion is listed as ''gnostic Christian'', and you seem to be implying that you no longer are a Noahide, or no longer identify as such, then we clearly have very different ideas about what 'Noahide' means This thread is about the 'label', not the religious identity. We might have different ideas of what ''Christianity'' is, I don't know, but I would not be a 'Christian', without also being a 'Noahide'. Just some clarification.

It looks like you also have your own view of what "Noahide" means.
The Hebrew phrase "son of Noah" literally includes every person on the planet, but is technically only used for those that accept on themselves the Noahide Laws which would preclude the possibility of being Christian. The English term"Noahide" refers to the latter.

 

[Tumah]

It wouldn't preclude Xianity by default. One could hold that opinion, but likewise would need an 'argument' for such, theological or otherwise.

That would only be true if you were to divorce Noahidism from its Talmudic source. In that case, I think it should be called something else, or at least change a letter like they do with Kaballah, Caballah and Qaballah. Because at that point, its no longer real Noahidism as expressed in the sources. So why give it the same name?

 

[Desert Snake]

Anyways, since this isn't a debate thread, for any debate I'm going to comment elsewhere.

 

[psychoslice]

Who cares !!.

 

[Desert Snake]

Who cares !!.

Is that a real question? Apparently you care, since you posted on this thread.

 

[Shem Ben Noah]

I'm a Noahide, and listing it as such next to 'religion'.

I won't be posting in the DIR's that aren't compatible with my beliefs, so some replies may go unanswered in a couple of threads.


Deal with it.

Are you still? Tried to send ya a PM, but I guess you block them?
Anyways, notice how some attack noachides?

 

[Desert Snake]

Are you still? Tried to send ya a PM, but I guess you block them?
Anyways, notice how some attack noachides?

I'll unblock that,/ if you still want to send that pm.

Yes, there seems to be some 'problems' what have you

 

[psychoslice]

Is that a real question? Apparently you care, since you posted on this thread.

As I said, who cares, I certainty don';t.

 

[Desert Snake]

As I said, who cares, I certainty don';t.

Good, since you don't care, you can stop spamming my thread.

 

[Desert Snake]

That would only be true if you were to divorce Noahidism from its Talmudic source. In that case, I think it should be called something else, or at least change a letter like they do with Kaballah, Caballah and Qaballah. Because at that point, its no longer real Noahidism as expressed in the sources. So why give it the same name?

This is somewhat difficult to figure out what your arguing, from the way it's presented.
'Noahidism' would presumably be from the Tora, not the Talmud. The Talmud describes it, and like any religious writing or inference, could 'codify' the precepts.

Why would I use a ''different name''?
Anyways, if you want to take this up in another thread, we can, I suppose.
I will add that your premise, here, could be problematic for the very usage of the word/idea, and also could even be contradictory if you are implying some greater Talmudic adherence to be a pre-requisite for Noahidism. Noahidism is not Judaism, and therefore cannot be ascribed the exact same arguments/reasoning as Judaism, necessarily.

 

[Tumah]

This is somewhat difficult to figure out what your arguing, from the way it's presented.
'Noahidism' would presumably be from the Tora, not the Talmud. The Talmud describes it, and like any religious writing or inference, could 'codify' the precepts.

Ok. Can you show me in the Torah where the phrase "Noahide" is used or alternatively where the Noahide Laws are listed?

Why would I use a ''different name''?
Anyways, if you want to take this up in another thread, we can, I suppose.
I will add that your premise, here, could be problematic for the very usage of the word/idea, and also could even be contradictory if you are implying some greater Talmudic adherence to be a pre-requisite for Noahidism. Noahidism is not Judaism, and therefore cannot be ascribed the exact same arguments/reasoning as Judaism, necessarily.

Inasmuch as the Talmud is the source of the term, it has the authority to define it and set its parameters.

 

[Desert Snake]

Ok. Can you show me in the Torah where the phrase "Noahide" is used or alternatively where the Noahide Laws are listed?

You're implying that Noahidism isn't from the Tora, but is from the Talmud. That's interesting.

Inasmuch as the Talmud is the source of the term, it has the authority to define it and set its parameters.

You can present those Talmudic parameters if you want, and your 'argument' against my comments as well, but you actually haven't. You merely stated that my comments were contradictory to the Talmudic references to Noahidism.

 

[Tumah]

You're implying that Noahidism isn't from the Tora, but is from the Talmud. That's interesting.

I'm not just implying it. Unless you have a source in Tanach for it, I don't see how one would not say that. Do you?

You can present those Talmudic parameters if you want, and your 'argument' against my comments as well, but you actually haven't. You just stated that my comments were contradictory to the Talmudic references to Noahidism.

Much of the parameters can be found here. The problems should be readily apparent after reading it.

 

[Desert Snake]

Much of the parameters can be found here. The problems should be readily apparent after reading it.

Skimmed through that: no idea what ''problems'' you think are apparent, concerning what I wrote.

 

[Rival]

If you're going to be a Christian, be a Christian. If a Noahide, be a Noahide. The two are mutually exclusive. Stop fence-straddling and pick one.

 

[Desert Snake]

If you're going to be a Christian, be a Christian. If a Noahide, be a Noahide. The two are mutually exclusive. Stop fence-straddling and pick one.

Technically, Christians can be or rather many are Noahides, but choosing to identify as a Noahide, is specific to Noahidism, /the label.

I never identified as a ''Christian'', by the way, and wouldn't do that. It seems like you think I did/would/?/ Why would i label myself a ''Christian'', now?

Yes, there are other labels, already aware of that.