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I'm in a sticky situation. Help!

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I woke up this morning with the thought in my head that I had made a deal with the devil during the night. All what I remember is that I had said yes to a deal to the devil when I was half asleep. I thought I was fully awake when making the deal but I barley remember any of it and don't know why I'd do something like that. I don't remember the parameters of the deal at all and I'm not even sure if I was fully awake when I said them. I also modified my deal and said yes to so many different deals in my dreams afterward that I had to create a computer program to understand everything. Of course the program was also a dream and when I woke up that morning I could barely remember anything or if I did anything under my own free will at all. I definitely did not want want to make a deal with the devil before I went to bed and when I woke up. This whole situation has really scared me because what I did was in such a grey area of whether I actually did anything or not. I likely have religious OCD so sometimes when there is something spiritual that I don't want to do in day to day life (such a devil worship) I end up doing the very thing I don't want to do in my dreams at night. This problem doesn't occur every once in a while, it happens every other night. Did I make a legit deal with the devil? Is there anything I can do about this?
It is not your dreams that matter but how you deal with your interpretations of them.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I I likely have religious OCD so sometimes when there is something spiritual that I don't want to do in day to day life
If you've really got OCD then the only advice you should get here is that RF isn't the place to come for serious advice.

If you're only half serious, then at worst you've made an imaginary transaction with an imaginary albeit disreputable being, and the odds are good that it'll all fade back into proportion pretty quickly.

If not, see para 1.
 
Is there anything I can do about this?
Read the New Testament, Mark chapter 5...

And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

Jesus cast the unclean spirits out of this man, and in v15 it says...
15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I woke up this morning with the thought in my head that I had made a deal with the devil during the night. All what I remember is that I had said yes to a deal to the devil when I was half asleep. I thought I was fully awake when making the deal but I barley remember any of it and don't know why I'd do something like that. I don't remember the parameters of the deal at all and I'm not even sure if I was fully awake when I said them. I also modified my deal and said yes to so many different deals in my dreams afterward that I had to create a computer program to understand everything. Of course the program was also a dream and when I woke up that morning I could barely remember anything or if I did anything under my own free will at all. I definitely did not want want to make a deal with the devil before I went to bed and when I woke up. This whole situation has really scared me because what I did was in such a grey area of whether I actually did anything or not. I likely have religious OCD so sometimes when there is something spiritual that I don't want to do in day to day life (such a devil worship) I end up doing the very thing I don't want to do in my dreams at night. This problem doesn't occur every once in a while, it happens every other night. Did I make a legit deal with the devil? Is there anything I can do about this?

You should stay away from shady business deals (that extra hour at work, that sweet promotion deal). Other than that, forget it.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
I woke up this morning with the thought in my head that I had made a deal with the devil during the night. All what I remember is that I had said yes to a deal to the devil when I was half asleep. I thought I was fully awake when making the deal but I barley remember any of it and don't know why I'd do something like that. I don't remember the parameters of the deal at all and I'm not even sure if I was fully awake when I said them. I also modified my deal and said yes to so many different deals in my dreams afterward that I had to create a computer program to understand everything. Of course the program was also a dream and when I woke up that morning I could barely remember anything or if I did anything under my own free will at all. I definitely did not want want to make a deal with the devil before I went to bed and when I woke up. This whole situation has really scared me because what I did was in such a grey area of whether I actually did anything or not. I likely have religious OCD so sometimes when there is something spiritual that I don't want to do in day to day life (such a devil worship) I end up doing the very thing I don't want to do in my dreams at night. This problem doesn't occur every once in a while, it happens every other night. Did I make a legit deal with the devil? Is there anything I can do about this?

Yes, it sounds like you have OCD in this area. I recommend counseling and also you check in with God for protection against the devil... as a Christian I believe no born again person has any lasting deal with the devil as he is a liar. Christ's blood washes away those contracts!
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I woke up this morning with the thought in my head that I had made a deal with the devil during the night. All what I remember is that I had said yes to a deal to the devil when I was half asleep. I thought I was fully awake when making the deal but I barley remember any of it and don't know why I'd do something like that. I don't remember the parameters of the deal at all and I'm not even sure if I was fully awake when I said them. I also modified my deal and said yes to so many different deals in my dreams afterward that I had to create a computer program to understand everything. Of course the program was also a dream and when I woke up that morning I could barely remember anything or if I did anything under my own free will at all. I definitely did not want want to make a deal with the devil before I went to bed and when I woke up. This whole situation has really scared me because what I did was in such a grey area of whether I actually did anything or not. I likely have religious OCD so sometimes when there is something spiritual that I don't want to do in day to day life (such a devil worship) I end up doing the very thing I don't want to do in my dreams at night. This problem doesn't occur every once in a while, it happens every other night. Did I make a legit deal with the devil? Is there anything I can do about this?
but let me think serious for a moment.....

relax.....first

and decide what it is you really want to do

hopefully.....
Do unto others as you would have it done unto you

can't go wrong
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
I woke up this morning with the thought in my head that I had made a deal with the devil during the night. All what I remember is that I had said yes to a deal to the devil when I was half asleep. I thought I was fully awake when making the deal but I barley remember any of it and don't know why I'd do something like that. I don't remember the parameters of the deal at all and I'm not even sure if I was fully awake when I said them. I also modified my deal and said yes to so many different deals in my dreams afterward that I had to create a computer program to understand everything. Of course the program was also a dream and when I woke up that morning I could barely remember anything or if I did anything under my own free will at all. I definitely did not want want to make a deal with the devil before I went to bed and when I woke up. This whole situation has really scared me because what I did was in such a grey area of whether I actually did anything or not. I likely have religious OCD so sometimes when there is something spiritual that I don't want to do in day to day life (such a devil worship) I end up doing the very thing I don't want to do in my dreams at night. This problem doesn't occur every once in a while, it happens every other night. Did I make a legit deal with the devil? Is there anything I can do about this?

Your dreams are merely trying to strike a balance for your psychological health so I wouldn't worry.

The devil is that part of your psyche which seeks to remain in control. It may be that in a dream you are negotiating a need or desire with your separative ego (the force in the psyche strong enough to act like a devil). One mode of ego development is that all power (in dream language focus or choice) is concentrated in one central authority and that authority always seeks to win out over others. To negotiate with it is to try and build a coalition or cooperative relationship in the psyche. The devil is simply selfishness.

The devil doesn't exist outside of your imagination or the actions of those who consciously act in the name of such imaginative personality.

So in your case you must be struggling with some issue in your day to day life where you are choosing a selfish choice but you have a continual feeling that you should not be making that choice and you want to negotiate something different with that part of you that drives you to that one-sided decision.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Dreams are last place to look for God. As a clear witness to the nature of fallible human dreams, humans can virtually dream of anything in a wide variety of everything possible and impossible.
Yes but God can override them so what you can look for is that your dream can't be contrary to God if He wants to talk to you.

It's the same thing with Schizophrenia. You know that it's Schizophrenia or its God.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Yes but God can override them so what you can look for is that your dream can't be contrary to God if He wants to talk to you.

It's the same thing with Schizophrenia. You know that it's Schizophrenia or its God.

I do not believe that the fallible human could distinguish which is which, if there is actually a difference.
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
Dreams are last place to look for God. As a clear witness to the nature of fallible human dreams, humans can virtually dream of anything in a wide variety of everything possible and impossible.
are you sure?

seems that dreams and their interpretations have some spotlight in scripture
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
are you sure?

seems that dreams and their interpretations have some spotlight in scripture

Are you sure?!?!?!?! I believe no body is sure concerning dreams.

Thee are so many different interpretations based on dreams, visions, personal revelations, and creative imaginations I seriously doubt there is any merit in this claim.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Are you sure?!?!?!?! I believe no body is sure concerning dreams.

Thee are so many different interpretations based on dreams, visions, personal revelations, and creative imaginations I seriously doubt there is any merit in this claim.
and you are then waiting for God......in person?......mano a mano?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
oh....so neither in vision or by action

If in a 'vision' it is most definitely an illusion of ancient perspective of anthropomorphic Gods.

In dreams 'actions' and or visions(?) would have the same problem as all the uncertainty of fallible human dreams and their many varied conflicting interpretations.
 
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