I'm Not a Tolerant Person

[IndigoChild5559]

Given Christianity is on the decline, good riddance. But some more context is necessary, because Judaism doesn't seem to have the hard ban, and indeed the cloak of many colors, the word כְּתֹנֶת פַּסִּים only appears twice, once for the coat that Jacob made for Joseph, and again for the cloak worn by David's daughter, Tamar. So this isn't quite the easy, black and white thing you want it to be.

Chrisitanity may be in the decline in the west, but it is growing greatly in africa.

 

[kjw47]

I don't think you have grasped the problem. This is basically inaccurate and frankly dumb. The quantity of liquid is not at cause, what's a cause is the rising temperature that changes the cycle of water and changes wind and rain patterns by introducing more energy in the system.

Did you go to college as a meteorologist. Because they assure what my post said.

 

[kjw47]

Chrisitanity may be in the decline in the west, but it is growing greatly in africa.

They have been in Africa for years. Yet millions of children starve to death, because they are false religions. A single teaching( Matthew 6:33) from Jesus applied by parents would have prevented those deaths. Yet those religions do not bother teaching Jesus truth, they teach dogma.
At Matt 6 Jesus promises-sustenance, covering, spirituality would be given from his Father if needed if they did Matthew 6:33-- So those teachers fail Jesus and all who listen to them. They are not christian as they claim.

 

[kjw47]

Maybe something more practical, like donating time or money to help those in need? Words only go so far. Love speaks more than words and preaching.

Do you mean handing a temporary fix to the hungry and then failing Jesus and the needy by not teaching them the permanent fix that Jesus gave to all for free along with that temp fix? Reality--The teachers who have Jesus taught that permanent fix to every flock member allready, thus all who applied it arent in need. Matthew 6:33--See where Jesus says one must do this FIRST in their life= ultra important--Matt 6 is a promise from Jesus that his Father would provide-sustenance, covering, spirituality if needed to all who applied that single teaching. Its these teachers-2Corinthians 11:12-15-who have failed to do so allready. So which is love handing a temp fix and failing Jesus and them by not teaching the permanent fix or teaching the permanent fix first so they would not be in need?
This world sees backwards.

 

[epronovost]

Did you go to college as a meteorologist. Because they assure what my post said.

Meteorologists aren't climatologists, I'm not doubting them. I'm doubting your comprehension and retelling of the situation. If this is a game of telephone where one person repeats what another person has said, you are distorting the info to a point its ridiculously incomprehensible.

 

[kjw47]

Leopards and lions and jaguars aren't the same. The statue you mention is of a winged jaguar, and it's not the only time a statue like that has appeared in such places.
Amd you do realize the UN has very little actual power don't you? Such as all their declarations and their own Bill of Rights have no legal binding. Even countries that sign on don't have to actually follow through. Many don't. Plenty of member states, such as Russia, do the exact opposite of those things. That's not a very convincing case for an entity who is supposed to have such control and power over the world.
As for fire from the heavens, modern bombs aren't the only military weapons to do that. Objects on fire launched from a trubechet or catapult seems to be a better filler for that. But that's the problem with these vague statements. People have been attaching them to this person and that state since the days of Rome.

The bible says God will put it into their(govts) hearts to hand over power for 1 hour(short time) to do away with babylon the great= worldwide false religions. This is next. That begins the tribulation= the locking of the door of the ark perse. then Har-mageddon.
the 7 of the 7 headed beast represent 7 world powers of all time-the 2 horned beast is the 7th-the last-All have been watching it for years. Yes and what happens to those countries like Russia, iran etc. that do not take the mark of he beast--sanctions, cannot buy or sell.

 

[kjw47]

Meteorologists aren't climatologists, I'm not doubting them. I'm doubting your comprehension and retelling of the situation. If this is a game of telephone where one person repeats what another person has said, you are distorting the info to a point its ridiculously incomprehensible.

no i am not. Its exactly what they said. Both parts play a role most likely.

 

[epronovost]

no i am not. Its exactly what they said. Both parts play a role most likely.

Then either you are wrong and don't repeat accurately what they said (or don't understand it all) which is very likely since you don't strike me as particularly cognizant in the domain, far from there or you are surrounded by cranks which is very unlikely, but still possible.

The rise in sea level doesn't have significant impact on weather pattern. Heat is causing more evaporation and more dense clouds and rapidly shifting patterns. The dilution of sea water with melting glacier water does make the sea water more prone to temperature shifts and its added carbon content does make it more acidic. The reduced sea ice also accelerate the warming of the ocean. Coastal flooding risks can be increase by higher sea levels, but most floods are caused by more active weather systems, not rising sea levels, at least for now.

 

[Ashoka]

They have been in Africa for years. Yet millions of children starve to death, because they are false religions. A single teaching( Matthew 6:33) from Jesus applied by parents would have prevented those deaths. Yet those religions do not bother teaching Jesus truth, they teach dogma.
At Matt 6 Jesus promises-sustenance, covering, spirituality would be given from his Father if needed if they did Matthew 6:33-- So those teachers fail Jesus and all who listen to them. They are not christian as they claim.

This is colonizer mentality. They are starving because of their governments, because of their land and their culture being stolen from them. Not because of "false religions."

 

[kjw47]

Then either you are wrong and don't repeat accurately what they said (or don't understand it all) which is very likely since you don't strike me as particularly cognizant in the domain, far from there or you are surrounded by cranks which is very unlikely, but still possible.

The rise in sea level doesn't have significant impact on weather pattern. Heat is causing more evaporation and more dense clouds and rapidly shifting patterns. The dilution of sea water with melting glacier water does make the sea water more prone to temperature shifts and its added carbon content does make it more acidic. The reduced sea ice also accelerate the warming of the ocean. Coastal flooding risks can be increase by higher sea levels, but most floods are caused by more active weather systems, not rising sea levels, at least for now.

More water vapor in the clouds are making storms move slower so they dump more rain in areas at a time.

 

[kjw47]

This is colonizer mentality. They are starving because of their governments, because of their land and their culture being stolen from them. Not because of "false religions."

I would expect an answer like this from one who doesnt know Jesus. Jesus promised in Matt 6. that sustenance, covering, spirituality would be provided from the Father if they put the kingdom first in their lives. False religious leaders are to blame.

 

[Ashoka]

I would expect an answer like this from one who doesnt know Jesus.

And that's Ad Hominem.

Not know Jesus?

I knew him. I grew up in a Christian home. My father was a Protestant minister. I went to Awana. I memorized the Bible, literally, cover to cover. When we converted to Catholicism in 2008 (which I realize you reject, but still) I was very devout. I led Bible studies. I performed on worship teams. I sought God with my whole heart.

But I also began to see the issues that were so prevalent in Christianity. The endless genocide and wars, wiping out other cultures and belief systems, burning books, stealing away and killing native American children, the homophobia, the transphobia, the sexism, the abominable fancy that teaches that those in heaven will rejoice over seeing people burn in hell. The mental abuse and psychological abuse, the sexual abuse, the intolerance, the twisting of Jesus' message.

Christianity is problematic. I get no joy out of saying that. Because there are good Christians. I am sure you are not a bad person. But your faith is not tolerant of me. It wants me to give up my present faith and adhere to Christianity. It wants me to, in some extreme cases, die because I believe differently.

I think if anything, this thread and the op only prove my point. He even reacted harshly when someone offered him peace. He doesn't want peace. Christianity doesn't want peace. It wants the end of the world to come. It wants things to get bad, because they believe they will be spared, while others will not. The almost giddy-like behavior of believing that everyone who is not like you will burn in hell is sickening.

As I deconstruct my belief system, I learn more day after day about the manipulation I endured, the mental abuse as I was threatened with hell.

Why would I want to know a Jesus whose followers behave like that? Why would anyone?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

And that's Ad Hominem.

Not know Jesus?

I knew him. I grew up in a Christian home. My father was a Protestant minister. I went to Awana. I memorized the Bible, literally, cover to cover. When we converted to Catholicism in 2008 (which I realize you reject, but still) I was very devout. I led Bible studies. I performed on worship teams. I sought God with my whole heart.

But I also began to see the issues that were so prevalent in Christianity. The endless genocide and wars, wiping out other cultures and belief systems, burning books, stealing away and killing native American children, the homophobia, the transphobia, the sexism, the abominable fancy that teaches that those in heaven will rejoice over seeing people burn in hell. The mental abuse and psychological abuse, the sexual abuse, the intolerance, the twisting of Jesus' message.

Christianity is problematic. I get no joy out of saying that. Because there are good Christians. I am sure you are not a bad person. But your faith is not tolerant of me. It wants me to give up my present faith and adhere to Christianity. It wants me to, in some extreme cases, die because I believe differently.

I think if anything, this thread and the op only prove my point. He even reacted harshly when someone offered him peace. He doesn't want peace. Christianity doesn't want peace. It wants the end of the world to come. It wants things to get bad, because they believe they will be spared, while others will not. The almost giddy-like behavior of believing that everyone who is not like you will burn in hell is sickening.

As I deconstruct my belief system, I learn more day after day about the manipulation I endured, the mental abuse as I was threatened with hell.

Why would I want to know a Jesus whose followers behave like that? Why would anyone?

My journey of leaving Christianity is quite different than yours, Ashoka, but I feel the same way about it. Your post is spot on, IMO. Christianity is problematic, and many of its followers are horrible people. I can personally attest to it. As I said yesterday, this quote by Gandhi, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ" has become more relevant to me these days. The more I read posts such as the one you quoted, the more I want to distance myself from Christianity.

 

[kjw47]

And that's Ad Hominem.

Not know Jesus?

I knew him. I grew up in a Christian home. My father was a Protestant minister. I went to Awana. I memorized the Bible, literally, cover to cover. When we converted to Catholicism in 2008 (which I realize you reject, but still) I was very devout. I led Bible studies. I performed on worship teams. I sought God with my whole heart.

But I also began to see the issues that were so prevalent in Christianity. The endless genocide and wars, wiping out other cultures and belief systems, burning books, stealing away and killing native American children, the homophobia, the transphobia, the sexism, the abominable fancy that teaches that those in heaven will rejoice over seeing people burn in hell. The mental abuse and psychological abuse, the sexual abuse, the intolerance, the twisting of Jesus' message.

Christianity is problematic. I get no joy out of saying that. Because there are good Christians. I am sure you are not a bad person. But your faith is not tolerant of me. It wants me to give up my present faith and adhere to Christianity. It wants me to, in some extreme cases, die because I believe differently.

I think if anything, this thread and the op only prove my point. He even reacted harshly when someone offered him peace. He doesn't want peace. Christianity doesn't want peace. It wants the end of the world to come. It wants things to get bad, because they believe they will be spared, while others will not. The almost giddy-like behavior of believing that everyone who is not like you will burn in hell is sickening.

As I deconstruct my belief system, I learn more day after day about the manipulation I endured, the mental abuse as I was threatened with hell.

Why would I want to know a Jesus whose followers behave like that? Why would anyone?

There you go, no trinity exists. Thus you dont know the real Jesus. Facts of Israelite God worship history prove God never was a trinity. It was invented at the councils of the religion that came out of Rome.
All that know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) knows a literal place of eternal suffering does not exist.
These teachers teach that sadist trinity god. 2Corinthians11:12-15-- these assure all- you are saved, yet they have no clue whose name is written in Gods book of life. They see outward appearances, not the true heart.
the true God= Love, justice, wisdom, power, mercy. Not sadism.
His justice scales are uncorruptable in perfect balance--So for 70-100 years of a life of unrepented sins. God could not condemn that one to trillions x trillions x trillions, etc of never ending years of suffering. He applies all 5 attributes in his decisions.
It was symbolism about eternal suffering which is this-- As each new day dawns in Gods kingdom those not allowed to enter miss each new day, miss out on Gods love each day, it never ends. Those have traded 70-100 years of unrepented sins and miss trillions x trillions x trillions, etc of never ending years, in perfect health, not aging like now, never sick, loved ones ressurected etc. A very lousy trade.
Those teaching that false trinity god are in fact not christians as the label they use suggests. And fools many.
God set before mankind-Duteronomy 30:19--LIFE or DEATH both will be everlasting.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

What, no Beatle's song? No 'we can work it out' or 'all you need is love'?

@Sgt. Pepper

For a discussion on drag, I don't think you can do better than Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da:

"Yeah, happy ever after in the market place
Molly lets the children lend a hand
Desmond stays at home and does his pretty face
And in the evening she's a singer with the band"

 

[Ashoka]

And that's Ad Hominem.

There you go, no trinity exists. Thus you dont know the real Jesus. Facts of Israelite God worship history prove God never was a trinity. It was invented at the councils of the religion that came out of Rome.
All that know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) knows a literal place of eternal suffering does not exist.
These teachers teach that sadist trinity god. 2Corinthians11:12-15-- these assure all- you are saved, yet they have no clue whose name is written in Gods book of life. They see outward appearances, not the true heart.
the true God= Love, justice, wisdom, power, mercy. Not sadism.
His justice scales are uncorruptable in perfect balance--So for 70-100 years of a life of unrepented sins. God could not condemn that one to trillions x trillions x trillions, etc of never ending years of suffering. He applies all 5 attributes in his decisions.
It was symbolism about eternal suffering which is this-- As each new day dawns in Gods kingdom those not allowed to enter miss each new day, miss out on Gods love each day, it never ends. Those have traded 70-100 years of unrepented sins and miss trillions x trillions x trillions, etc of never ending years, in perfect health, not aging like now, never sick, loved ones ressurected etc. A very lousy trade.
Those teaching that false trinity god are in fact not christians as the label they use suggests. And fools many.
God set before mankind-Duteronomy 30:19--LIFE or DEATH both will be everlasting.

You and every other Christian sect on this planet has "proof" they are the "real" Christianity. You're one of many that eat your own.

 

[Ashoka]

My journey of leaving Christianity is quite different than yours, Ashoka, but I feel the same way about it. Your post is spot on, IMO. Christianity is problematic, and many of its followers are horrible people. I can personally attest to it. As I said yesterday, this quote by Gandhi, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ" has become more relevant to me these days. The more I read posts such as the one you quoted, the more I want to distance myself from Christianity.

Deconstruction has been hard, but so worth it. It helped me see God in a new way, in a much more inclusive way.

 

[Windwalker]

You need to start judging more, ...unless, of course, you can't tell right from wrong?

Judging is passing judging upon others, calling them wrong, disobedient to God, sinners, the lost, fools, idiots, dolts, ugly, fat, skinny, etc.

What you mean to say is discernment. But how we discern right from wrong, good from bad, healthy from unhealthy, has to do with the heart of compassion and the mind of wisdom. It does not come from a list of external rules that you read and feel you have the right to pass judgement on others from. That is what the Pharisees were guilty of. That is what Jesus hoped to point out to them. "Let he that is without sin among you cast the first stone". Do you understand the intent behind that? That is what Romans 14 is pointing to.

Did you read that chapter yet, and have any questions about it?

 

[kjw47]

You and every other Christian sect on this planet has "proof" they are the "real" Christianity. You're one of many that eat your own.

The Israelites from Moses on up until this very day while serving the true God, taught, served and worshipped a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) thus this God was taught to Jesus when he attended those places of worship, as well to every bible writer. In the second century a man named Terrillion was considering God being a trinity-Why-because a single being God was being taught, served and worshipped. At the first council of Nicea in 325 no trinity was being taught. It was added at another council-made up. It does not exist
Jesus teaches truth-John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- he has a God like we do-his Father.
Every supposed scholar on the planet knows 100% the words above are truth. They would lose billions of dollars those religions are pulling in every year, and probably be arrested not telling fact sooner.
Every word in that first paragraph is proven fact.
The religion that came out of Romes own translating prove they are false. Jesus was never with them.
Not a single branch fixed the errors translated in to fit false council teachings. They are being mislead into serving a non existent god, breaking Gods #1 commandment daily.

 

[Ashoka]

The Israelites from Moses on up until this very day while serving the true God, taught, served and worshipped a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) thus this God was taught to Jesus when he attended those places of worship, as well to every bible writer. In the second century a man named Terrillion was considering God being a trinity-Why-because a single being God was being taught, served and worshipped. At the first council of Nicea in 325 no trinity was being taught. It was added at another council-made up. It does not exist
Jesus teaches truth-John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- he has a God like we do-his Father.
Every supposed scholar on the planet knows 100% the words above are truth. They would lose billions of dollars those religions are pulling in every year, and probably be arrested not telling fact sooner.
Every word in that first paragraph is proven fact.
The religion that came out of Romes own translating prove they are false. Jesus was never with them.
Not a single branch fixed the errors translated in to fit false council teachings. They are being mislead into serving a non existent god, breaking Gods #1 commandment daily.

My point still stands. Catholics use the Bible to justify their teachings, as do Baptists, Mormons, Pentacostals, Methodists, and Jehovah's Witnesses. *shrug*