I'm Not a Tolerant Person

[crossfire]

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http://wikibin.org/articles/veridicanism.html

The link above is about your stated religion.

from the link above:

Hell
We believe hell is a place of spiritual agony where souls are kept for the pleasure of God. We believe anyone not transforming into Christ at the time of death will go to hell.​

God is sadistic?

Your brand of Christianity is a brand of hate, viciousness, and vigilante justice in the name of Jesus or God. There is no room in heaven for the vicious.

Wow! We agree!

 

[Kenny]

Very often I hear individuals criticize catholicism for having mysteries or accuse the priests of being liars. Take for example the mystery of the trinity. That is our #1 thread spooler here on RF and in two other forums I used to frequent for years. How many threads have there been accusing the catholics of lying about the trinity? Jesus in the gospels speaks in weird ways people don't get and in ways people will misunderstand. He tells his disciples some nonsense about the yeast of the Pharisees, and his disciples just don't get it. And its their fault for being too dull. This is different from the sermon on the mount The sermon on the mount is easy to understand, plain.

His teaching was done in parables which the people couldn't grasp. The sermon on the mount was clear. Today it would probably be called an exegesis. Jesus also never taught his disciples everything they would need and picked on them once when they didn't figure things out for themselves. Despite speaking words that he knew would not be understood he did not consider this lying, which brings into question whether we can read anything in the gospels literally except for the sermon on the mount. And what about the way his apostles speak? Are they direct, or do they follow Jesus example? When teaching Jesus doesn't hold himself responsible for what we hear, and often he is the only person who knows what he means. The sermon is different, because it is clear and easily drawn from previous scripture or can be read as commentary on scripture.

thank you for taking time to respond... very well said.

 

[DNB]

You're aware that drag queens aren't transgender do you? They are burlesque performers. It's theatre. The drag queen doesn't think he's a woman or anything like that. He dresses up as a woman (or more accurately some sort of caricature of a woman) for entertainment purpose. It's the same principle than those heavy metal bands that dress in dark with all sort of morbid imagery, but with pastel and glitter instead.

You joking, dude? They guy was in Church giving young kids a sermon - where's the flippin' theatre and act, who the heck was being frivolously entertained?????

 

[Onyx]

I'm tolerant of people's sexual orientation and personal aesthetic, but not so tolerant of children being indoctrinated from an early age.

At least the individual in the photo brings panache to the pulpit, church can be so boring.

 

[Revoltingest]

Im not.

Of course, I'm the most new age touchy feely
progressive Zen woke poster on RF.
(Having little empathy helps a great deal.)

 

[Revoltingest]

You should take your own advice in your last sentence.

I do (wouldn't give it otherwise).
Some believers tolerate discussion with me.
So I must not be a total waste to them.

 

[sun rise]

What makes this time any different or special than the previous thousands of years that have involved people saying just that?

I believe it to be true which gets into my belief system. Whether other people wind up agreeing or not should be much clearer in 50 years or so.

 

[Revoltingest]

Catching more bees with honey.....OUCH.....that stung. Mommy didn't tell me this part when she was talking about birds.

At least hostile believers don't sting me.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ahh....a cold war.

I prefer to avoid wars....cold, flame, hot, or Info Wars.
To be a non-combatant is good for equanimity.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your level of tolerance is just sooo revolting.

Remember that we're only disagreeing
about things that don't even exist.

 

[sun rise]

Oh well. I had an entire post of replies, but apparently, it's been deleted. That's how it is in most forums I join. You all are allowed to say whatever you like, not me. So, you ought to think about that.

A lot, quite a bit is permitted, as long as you follow the rules. For a post to be deleted, you would have been notified about which of the rules was at issue.

 

[kjw47]

I do (wouldn't give it otherwise).
Some believers tolerate discussion with me.
So I must not be a total waste to them.

Doesnt seem by telling them to mind their own business when this is a religious sight it would sit very well. seems more like terrorism. And why would one want to be in a place where religious believers will not mind their own business? Just so you can tell them to mind their own business? They will not listen to that, so you are terrorizing yourself in a way as well.

 

[epronovost]

You joking, dude? They guy was in Church giving young kids a sermon - where's the flippin' theatre and act, who the heck was being frivolously entertained?????

The act is called a performance. It's basically "living art". The strangeness of the scene itself is the artwork. The idea is to take two things that are completely opposite (the burlesque performance and the Church sermon) coexist simultaneously, think of it as a live version of a painting of war material with flowers (or the opposite). The people entertained are those who see such things since it was filmed and photographed and, of course, the public of children who look like they have fun on the pictures. You can of course not like it like you can dislike any sort of art for any reason, but don't make it into something it's not, like a vehicle for you sexism and your transphobia; nobody there is transgender as far as we know.

 

[Revoltingest]

Doesnt seem by telling them to mind their own business when this is a religious sight it would sit very well. seems more like terrorism. And why would one want to be in a place where religious believers will not mind their own business? Just so you can tell them to mind their own business? They will not listen to that, so you are terrorizing yourself in a way as well.

I tell everyone to mind their own business.
It's our responsibility to pull our own weight,
& to live & let live (IMO). A great many people
agree with me on this...even believers.
BTW, we oppose terrorism.

 

[epronovost]

Sorry dude, you have to start thinking past your nose. Jesus forgave the the woman caught in adultery, but denounced the sin. He was fully aware, more than you, of the difference between sinner and sin.

She was not a prostitute either. A prostitute might have no say in who she has sex with because she's either destitute and thus must resort to prostitution to survive (and asking them not to sin is basically asking them to kill themselves or their children... which is also a sin) or they are slaves and thus not free to do such thing. Asking a prostitute to "sin no more" is next to impossible for her to achieve as she doesn't have that freedom. In other words, it's like asking a terminal cancer patient to just heal and be done with it.

Tax collectors were renowned for being dishonest in Jesus' time. They were only obligated to bring to their superiors what the government required, he was therefore able to charge the civilians anything that he liked - and it was always exorbitant. Their name was synonymous with extortion and corruption.

Not really no. That's mostly a myth or at least an exaggeration mostly derived from the writings of political enemies of the Pubicans, a prestigious position, during the late Republican era of Rome where corruption was absolutely rampant in the sphere of government. At the time of Jesus, things were, strangely much better, they would degrade again though soon after. There might be some anachronism between the writers of the books and the setting of the books though about that specific point. Publicans were under close watch by the Imperial throne to void corruption as it was dangerous and accusations flew often, even if they were baseless, as is often the case in Roman politics. Never accept the words of rival politicians as granted.

 

[VoidCat]

Oh well. I had an entire post of replies, but apparently, it's been deleted. That's how it is in most forums I join. You all are allowed to say whatever you like, not me. So, you ought to think about that.

A lot is permitted. But someone with your mindset of anyone with a religion different then mine must be wrong and they must convert to my religion...
Well you are allowed to say how your religion is the only true religion. But it's easy to undermine the forum mission if you insult other beliefs and act intolerate of other beliefs and to run into proselytizing which is against the rules...
Not saying that's what happened I didnt read what you wrote before it was deleted but just saying you should try to be respectful of other people if you want to stick around. You can go on all you like about how Christianity is the only true way that's allowed I think but you can't attempt to convert anyone and be disrespectful of others religions. This is a religion forum made to promote disscussion not this is a Christians only forum. You will run into different beliefs and you need to be respectful of those. Even if you disagree.

 

[kjw47]

I tell everyone to mind their own business.
It's our responsibility to pull our own weight,
& to live & let live (IMO). A great many people
agree with me on this...even believers.
BTW, we oppose terrorism.

Dont you think to a religious believer an athiest is a terrorist in a sense? You dont bother me. i dont mind my own business, Religious believers would say i am a terrorist against them in a sense as well. The teachings of Jesus and the facts of true God worship history prove 99% of all religions claiming to be christian arent. They refuse to believe Jesus over dogmas.

 

[Father Heathen]

As long as their actions neither victimize nor violate the rights of others, they can gibber and wallow in their silly, hateful little superstitions all they want. Their acceptance isn't needed.

 

[Spiderman]

I love it! I'm gonna print that one out for my wall!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Remember that we're only disagreeing about things that don't even exist.

Oh my goodness -- that is so pithy, so satisfying, so rich -- I'd frube you top-full if I could!