thevoiceofgod
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The visible brain is NOT THE MIND. The mind is completely invisible to man.
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I'm pretty sure there's no god now
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The visible brain is NOT THE MIND. The mind is completely invisible to man.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
It's well known that mental health and physical health are interconnected. Poor physical health affects our mind, and poor mental health affects our body. That doesn't mean that they are 'one and the same thing'.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
A person's entire personality can change them basically into a completely different person than they used to be, just from their brain being damaged. We have no evidence of minds without brains. When a person's brain is dead, they are dead.
I still don't know why you don't think the mind is a product of the brain.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
As you say .. we perceive time as a flow from past to present.
Both the past and future exist .. of course, they are not visible to us.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
I agree, good and evil are not just evident in things we observe, beyond our control, but in our own actions also. And similarly, an act of good, has no meaning, unless it is chosen over an alternative
Correct. They exist, but they are not visible. Or, better, they are not in a causal relationship with us. And causal relationships to some observers do not dictate ontology.
So, what makes you think that the spacetime continuum, and all the events that punctuate it, change?
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outhouse
Atheistically
Well sir, you ae factually wrong.
Please provide credible sources with links to support your claim
outhouse
Atheistically
Does not make sense to me. Good and kind acts regardless of any so called choice factually has plenty of meaning
thevoiceofgod
Active Member
I am not wrong at all. The mind is where all information exists. The brain is a visible illusion that is formed in the mind of each created being that makes him believe the brain is important. We don't need a visible brain to experience life with.
outhouse
Atheistically
Do you have a date for this "age" like 2 million years ago? or 5000 years ago???????
Most credible scholars claim this was not a literal tree, how do you defend against mythological claims?
outhouse
Atheistically
Yes you are.
Its why you cannot provide credible sources or links to support you so called claim
What does that even mean??
The brain factually is not a visible illusion.
Factually false.
A brain is required for all life
thevoiceofgod
Active Member
You better get your facts straightened out. There's a reason scientists don't understand what the mind is even though they've been studying the brain for many years. It's what they observe that deceives them of how we were created.
outhouse
Atheistically
Provide credible sources with links to substantiate your so called claims
thevoiceofgod
Active Member
Our Creator is the only source to learn how He created everything but He's invisible to His creation. So you have to listen to His voice to learn how He did it.
outhouse
Atheistically
Provide credible sources with links to substantiate your so called claims
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
I don't see your brains when I read your messages, I see your thoughts put into words. The computer is doing what it's been programmed to do, just as your brain has.
The computer is physical hardware, and without external input at some point, will do nothing..
That is why I don't think that I'm a 'product of my brain' .
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
I don't remember saying that they did .. I'm not sure what you mean
AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
It's rather very asymmetrical. There's far more suffering in nature than there is pleasure and enjoyment. In fact, suffering, harshness, fighting and killing are seemingly integral while pleasure is just something an organism is lucky to experience from time to time. It's so integral that you have animals like the cheetah and the gazelle. The cheetah's physiology is so fine tuned to run at very high speeds in order to catch the also very fast gazelle. While the gazelle is fine tuned to run extremely fast in order to escape the cheetah. In biology, this is called an evolutionary arms race. One organism evolves something, and that forces another organism to evolve something. In turn, that second organism forces the first organism to evolve that thing some more. Which forces the second organism to evolve that thing further. The process repeats rather pointlessly.
Cheetahs put selective pressure on gazelle populations to weed out the ones that aren't fast enough. That leaves only the fastest gazelles alive. That in turn puts selective pressure on the cheetahs, where only the fastest of the fastest cheetahs are able to catch their main prey while the slowest fail in hunts and die off. That leaves only the fastest of the fastest cheetah's alive which then puts selective pressure on gazelle populations which weeds out all but the very fastest gazelle's alive. Rinse and repeat.
That all fits in perfectly well with a creatorless universe. But if I'm invoking an omniscient creator, he'd have to be rather sadistic to design two fast running creatures where one has to catch the other.
You see this in tree populations too! The tallest trees get the sunlight. That puts selective pressure on other trees to grow taller (the less tall ones die off). Leaving nothing but tall trees. Of course, that repeats the cycle. The point is, broadly speaking, the overall there's no grand point in a certain population of trees to be tall. All it is is each individual tree competing with each other.
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AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
Dude, he's the voice of god! See his username?! He knows what he's talking about!