I'm sick of this forum.

[BSM1]

So if someone doesn't particularly enjoy being the routine target of bigotry, that makes them a "snowflake"? It's easy to be dismissive when you're not on the receiving end.

Life's tough, and no one can hurt your feelings unless you allow it. You don't think I blasted on here?

 

[shmogie]

But they give cover to those that do. They help normalize the idea that some ideas are immune from discussion. So indirectly, even if they are not personally violent, they adhere to a system that can and frequently does lead to violence. The notion that some ideas are above discussion is "pap".

No idea's are above discussion, I agree, unless one chooses not to discuss it. Why you singled out dogmatism as a cause for violence and not politics, garden clubs or bars, I have no idea

 

[icehorse]

No idea's are above discussion, I agree, unless one chooses not to discuss it. Why you singled out dogmatism as a cause for violence and not politics, garden clubs or bars, I have no idea

Because dogmatism is what attempts to put some ideas above discussion.

 

[Watchmen]

Criticizing a dead public figure over things they've said is not the same as expressing bigotry and hatred towards fellow forum members. We can have our opinions on individuals and their characters, after all. Otherwise you might as well be saying that we should only say nice things about people like Hitler, too. I was hardly "railing", either.

You said there’s too much hatred on this site. I didn’t know it was limited to fellow forum members.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You said there’s too much hatred on this site. I didn’t know it was limited to fellow forum members.

Context is a thing, you know. Stop trolling.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Life's tough, and no one can hurt your feelings unless you allow it.

There is a difference between hurt feelings and social wide and politically enforced bigotry. It's much larger than hurt feelings when you have science to support your claims and society widely and largely dismisses science for their own beliefs, and not just beliefs but beliefs that wrongly shape law and fuel discrimination and harassment.

 

[Deidre]

Just in case it is any help, I'm mentioning this: backstage, we have never based support or opposition to any given policy on reasoning such as "that would be for snowflakes" or "only snowflakes would be offended by that!" So rest assured that these types of mocking, dismissive arguments hold no weight when it comes to how this place is actually run.

I used to be a mod so I know lol

 

[shmogie]

Because dogmatism is what attempts to put some ideas above discussion.

Let me get this straight, putting some ideas above discussion leads to violence ? I'm sorry, I just don't see it.

What about subjects below discussion ? I have no desire to discuss necrophilia,for example. Is that being dogmatic ?

 

[Axe Elf]

What about subjects below discussion ? I have no desire to discuss necrophilia,for example. Is that being dogmatic ?

If someone kills you over necrophilia, it could just be that they are attracted to you.

 

[BSM1]

There is a difference between hurt feelings and social wide and politically enforced bigotry. It's much larger than hurt feelings when you have science to support your claims and society widely and largely dismisses science for their own beliefs, and not just beliefs but beliefs that wrongly shape law and fuel discrimination and harassment.

And?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And?

It doesn't make one a "snowflake" to call out such things. Would it even be thinkable to consider Martin Luther King or Gandhi in such a derogatory manner for growing sick of prejudice and discrimination?

 

[Father Heathen]

Life's tough, and no one can hurt your feelings unless you allow it. You don't think I blasted on here?

Are you "blasted" for opinions or statements, or something innate like your race, sexuality, etc.?

 

[BSM1]

It doesn't make one a "snowflake" to call out such things. Would it even be thinkable to consider Martin Luther King or Gandhi in such a derogatory manner for growing sick of prejudice and discrimination?

These two would never even understand a "safe place" concept, let alone go to one. Man up.

Are you "blasted" for opinions or statements, or something innate like your race, sexuality, etc.?

Does it matter? And have you? A blast is a blast. Man up.

 

[shmogie]

I definitely agree that the present political atmosphere in the US is a major driver in the uptick in hate speech on this and other forums. I don't recall it being this bad before and I've been here since 2012. Bigots are feeling empowered lately. I hope it will pass when the orange one is out of office and his movement evaporates. I will surely do my part by voting.

Trump has been a catalyst for a simmering inevitable clash in a deeply fractured society. To pretend he is responsible for hate speech, which, btw, is free speech, is nonsense. So called hate speech is shoved out by the left as much or more than the right.
Left wing bigots are as verbal as any other bigots, and getting more verbal.

It isn´t about politics, it is about nothing less than cultural warfare represented in politics.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

These two would never even understand a "safe place" concept, let alone go to one

Who mentioned anything about "safe places?"

Does it matter? And have you? A blast is a blast.

Yes, it does matter. If you are blasted for an opinion or a choice you make, that is one thing. If you are blasted for being left handed it is unacceptable though the norm not too long ago. That is entirely something else.

Man up.

So, basically, your defense is to make appeals to destructive images of "being a tough guy" that have men living shorter lives than women for neglecting health care and high-risk taking behaviors?

 

[Father Heathen]

These two would never even understand a "safe place" concept, let alone go to one. Man up.

Straw man. No one said anything about "safe places".

Does it matter? And have you? A blast is a blast. Man up.

Right, because being criticized for embracing irrational views and being dehumanized because of the color of your skin are totally the same.

...and why are you telling me to "man up"? It doesn't even have anything to do with me. I'm not generally the target of bigots.

 

[BSM1]

Who mentioned anything about "safe places?"

Yes, it does matter. If you are blasted for an opinion or a choice you make, that is one thing. If you are blasted for being left handed it is unacceptable though the norm not too long ago. That is entirely something else.

So, basically, your defense is to make appeals to destructive images of "being a tough guy" that have men living shorter lives than women for neglecting health care and high-risk taking behaviors?

So you're blasted for being left-handed? So you're blasted for being black, white, green, grey? So you're blasted about being short? So you're blasted about having three nipples? So what? Does that change who you are or how you feel about yourself? Why would you give the rest of the world that much power over you? Man up.

 

[BSM1]

Straw man. No one said anything about "safe places".



Right, because being criticized for embracing irrational views and being dehumanized because of the color of your skin are totally the same.

...and why are you telling me to "man up"? It doesn't even have anything to do with me. I'm not generally the target of bigots.

See above. Some people seem to just look for something to feel slighted about.

 

[Father Heathen]

See above. Some people seem to just look for something to feel slighted about.

Because the back of the bus is no less comfortable than the front, right?

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, great....are we holding the Victim Olympics?
And if one has insufficient victim cred, it's then OK to be abused?
Regardless of race, religion, gender, etc, everyone should be treated with civility.