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Immaculate Menses: Gospel of the Torah (Numbers 19:1-2).

John D. Brey

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And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron saying, This is the Chok of the Torah which God commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came a yoke.​
Numbers 19:1-2.​

Everything, literally everything, rests upon the meaning of the phrase interpreted above as, "Chok of the Torah." The Gutnick Chumash interprets it as the "suprarational command of the Torah." And basing her logic on the teachings of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, Nechoma Greisman wrote the article titled, Chukas: The Value of Life:

Parah Adumah falls into the category of chukkim. That’s why the name of the parshah is Chukas, because this mitzvah is the classic decree. The Torah says “this is the decree of the Torah,” not, “this is the decree of the Parah Adumah,” as if to say, “This is the paradigmatic decree of the entire Torah. If you want to know what the whole Torah is about, look at Parah Adumah.” And then we say to ourselves, “But how can you say that this is the chok of the Torah? This is so different from other mitzvos. It’s not like the other mitzvos; it’s unusual. It’s the exception, not the rule. I don’t know any other mitzvah that’s so weird.”​

As noted in Rabbi Menachem Schneerson's Likkutei Sichos, Numbers 19:2 doesn't say this is the chok or decree of the red heifer, as would be expected, or that this is the decree of ritual purification through the red heifer, which would also make normal sense. It says, this is the Decree of the Torah (and the capitalization is justified by reason of the profound nature of the statement). The decree concerning the ashes of the red heifer isn't just a decree about the ritual purification rendered through those ashes (ritual purification from the uncleanness of the corpse, death). On the contrary, strange though it seems, the language implies the ritual purification that comes through the ashes of the red heifer is the gospel truth concerning everything else written throughout the Torah. "If you want to know what the whole Torah is about, look at Parah Adumah” (Greisman).

This is one of the reasons why the red heifer is understood as encapsulating the Torah in its totality, and why the Torah introduces the laws of the red heifer with the phrase, "This is the statute of the Torah." The Torah uses this wording rather than, "This is the statute of purification," or, "This is the statute of the heifer," because the red heifer teaches us about the Torah as a whole.​
Likkutei Sichos, Parshas Chukas I.​



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John D. Brey

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And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron saying, This is the Chok of the Torah which God commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came a yoke.​
Numbers 19:1-2.​

Everything, literally everything, rests upon the meaning of the phrase interpreted above as, "Chok of the Torah." The Gutnick Chumash interprets it as the "suprarational command of the Torah." And basing her logic on the teachings of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, Nechoma Greisman wrote the article titled, Chukas: The Value of Life:

Parah Adumah falls into the category of chukkim. That’s why the name of the parshah is Chukas, because this mitzvah is the classic decree. The Torah says “this is the decree of the Torah,” not, “this is the decree of the Parah Adumah,” as if to say, “This is the paradigmatic decree of the entire Torah. If you want to know what the whole Torah is about, look at Parah Adumah.” And then we say to ourselves, “But how can you say that this is the chok of the Torah? This is so different from other mitzvos. It’s not like the other mitzvos; it’s unusual. It’s the exception, not the rule. I don’t know any other mitzvah that’s so weird.”​

As noted in Rabbi Menachem Schneerson's Likkutei Sichos, Numbers 19:2 doesn't say this is the chok or decree of the red heifer, as would be expected, or that this is the decree of ritual purification through the red heifer, which would also make normal sense. It says, this is the Decree of the Torah (and the capitalization is justified by reason of the profound nature of the statement). The decree concerning the ashes of the red heifer isn't just a decree about the ritual purification rendered through those ashes (ritual purification from the uncleanness of the corpse, death). On the contrary, strange though it seems, the language implies the purification that comes through the ashes of the red heifer is the gospel truth concerning everything else written throughout the Torah. "If you want to know what the whole Torah is about, look at Parah Adumah” (Greisman).

This is one of the reasons why the red heifer is understood as encapsulating the Torah in its totality, and why the Torah introduces the laws of the red heifer with the phrase, "This is the statute of the Torah." The Torah uses this wording rather than, "This is the statute of purification," or, "This is the statute of the heifer," because the red heifer teaches us about the Torah as a whole.​
Likkutei Sichos, Parshas Chukas I.​

The paradox concerning the ashes of the red heifer regards the fact of this particular decree/statute being the quintessential case of a unique sort of mitzvah called a "chok חק":

In mishpatim and eidus, G-d contracted His will and enclothed it in logical thought, enabling man's thought processes to comprehend it. With regard to chukim, by contrast, G-d's will retains its transcendent nature . . . chukim remain an expression of His will that transcends our understanding.​
Ibid.​

Since the chok is said to transcend the Jew's understanding, it's problematic to state, as Greisman and Rabbi Schneerson both state the case, that the central chok upon which all others, and all mishpatim and eidus too are based, is unknown and unknowable to a Jew. The situation would be exponentially worse if it could be shown that what's acknowledged as unknowable for the Jew, is common knowledge for the Christian; it would answer to all those times that a Jewish interlocuter exclaims his frustration when a Christian attempts to tell a Jew what his, the Jew's, religion is all about.

If the meaning of the red heifer is unknowable to the Jew, and knowable to the Christian, that's a pretty important nuance. It would imply a Christian could tell the Jew what his religion is all about if only that knowledge didn't remain a chok for the Jew, a suprarational understanding transcending the nature of the Jewish soul. Not only do most knowledgeable Jews concede that the decree of the red heifer is the key to the entire Torah, but these same knowledgeable Jews admit that by the decree of God himself, the meaning of the decree of the red heifer, and thus the deeper meaning of the mishpatim and eidus too, are unknown and unknowable for the Jew. -----God forbid that they should be knowable, explicable, and relatable, within a Christian context.



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GoodAttention

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The paradox concerning the ashes of the red heifer regards the fact of this particular decree/statute being the quintessential case of a unique sort of mitzvah called a "chok חק":

In mishpatim and eidus, G-d contracted His will and enclothed it in logical thought, enabling man's thought processes to comprehend it. With regard to chukim, by contrast, G-d's will retains its transcendent nature . . . chukim remain an expression of His will that transcends our understanding.​
Ibid.​

Since the chok is said to transcend the Jew's understanding, it's problematic to state, as Greisman and Rabbi Schneerson both state the case, that the central chok upon which all others, and all mishpatim and eidus too are based, is unknown and unknowable to a Jew. The situation would be exponentially worse if it could be shown that what's acknowledged as unknowable for the Jew, is common knowledge for the Christian; it would answer to all those times that a Jewish interlocuter exclaims his frustration when a Christian attempts to tell a Jew what his, the Jew's, religion is all about.

If the meaning of the red heifer is unknowable to the Jew, and knowable to the Christian, that's a pretty important nuance. It would imply a Christian could tell the Jew what his religion is all about if only that knowledge didn't remain a chok for the Jew, a suprarational understanding transcending the nature of the Jewish soul. Not only do most knowledgeable Jews concede that the decree of the red heifer is the key to the entire Torah, but these same knowledgeable Jews admit that by the decree of God himself, the meaning of the decree of the red heifer, and thus the deeper meaning of the mishpatim and eidus too, are unknown and unknowable for the Jew. -----God forbid that they should be knowable, explicable, and relateable, within a Christian context.



John

If the Messiah never comes, the Jews will always have the Torah.

But what will the Christians, or even Muslims have if Christ never returns?

The conclusion is that it is better not to know, than to know.
 

John D. Brey

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If the Messiah never comes, the Jews will always have the Torah.

According to what's been written so far, the Jews will always have a Torah whose fundamental meaning they don't know; whose meaning transcends their understanding.

But what will the Christians, or even Muslims have if Christ never returns?

The hope and confidence that he will return no matter how long it takes.

The conclusion is that it is better not to know, than to know.

That conclusion is difficult for me to parse based on the context. I suppose you're saying ignorance is bliss. In which case, were I Jewish, that might have been a fitting title for a thread discussing the nature of the supra-rational decrees of the Torah.




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According to what's been written so far, the Jews will always have a Torah whose fundamental meaning they don't know; whose meaning transcends their understanding.

They don’t need to understand it, they just need to follow it.

Or maybe that is what they want you to think.

The hope and confidence that he will return no matter how long it takes.
Hope and confidence will fade, even for Jews, but the Torah can never be unwritten.

That conclusion is difficult for me to parse based on the context. I suppose you're saying ignorance is bliss. In which case, were I Jewish, that might have been a fitting title for a thread discussing the nature of the supra-rational decrees of the Torah.

Such is the burden of divine knowledge that a Christian must be satisfied with hope and faith in a Messiah they, statistically speaking, will never see return.

Yet the simple Jew lives perpetual in a juvenile state of blissful ignorance, reading word on a page they don’t understand but claiming to be waiting for the same man!

Your hemo-phallo preoccupation is what makes your titles special.
 

John D. Brey

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If the meaning of the red heifer is unknowable to the Jew, and knowable to the Christian, that's a pretty important nuance. It would imply a Christian could tell the Jew what his religion is all about if only that knowledge didn't remain a chok for the Jew, a suprarational understanding transcending the nature of the Jewish soul. Not only do most knowledgeable Jews concede that the decree of the red heifer is the key to the entire Torah, but these same knowledgeable Jews admit that by the decree of God himself, the meaning of the decree of the red heifer, and thus the deeper meaning of the mishpatim and eidus too, are unknown and unknowable for the Jew. -----God forbid that they should be knowable, explicable, and relateable, within a Christian context.

Nechoma Greisman says:

The mitzvah of Parah Adumah is totally irrational — there is no rhyme or reason by which a person can figure out how this procedure makes any sense. Nevertheless, the Torah describes an exact procedure that a person must undergo if he wishes to rid himself of the impurity which is brought about by contact with a dead body.​

The problem with Greishman's statement is caught by her mentor Rabbi Schneerson:

Based on the above, it is necessary to clarify a statement in the Midrash, "The Holy One, blessed be He, told Moshe, `To you [alone] will I reveal the rationale of the [red] heifer.'" This indicates that the statute of the red heifer also possesses a rationale.​
Likkutei Sichos, Parshas Chukas II.​

Rabbi Schneerson's point is that if Moses can have the rationale for the red heifer revealed, then it doesn't absolutely transcend human reason; it's not utterly supra-rational. In his Likkutei Sichos, Rabbi Schneerson expends some number of pages trying to make sense of a decree that's said to be beyond human reason, but not beyond a particular human's reason (i.e., Moses). In effect, the meaning of the decrees isn't utterly transcendent, it just transcends those who's understanding of the Torah is beneath the rung Moses attained.

Which segues into a statement made by the Christian scholar R.B. Thieme, Jr., to the effect that because of the revelation of Christ, every Christian, even those who aren't theological scholars or in any way akin to the Jewish sages, has access, nevertheless, to domains of the Torah beyond even Moses. Col. Thieme is suggesting that the meaning of the red heifer, which transcends Jewish understanding, is the very basis of the Christian's most basic understanding of the scriptures, the understanding whose foundation is found in the four Gospels of the Christian canon.

A justification of Col. Thieme's statement would require delineating the meaning of the red heifer in a reasonable and rational manner that both anchors the Christian's most basic belief without in any way contradicting Jewish teaching concerning the meaning of the Torah. Should this be accomplished, it's still possible that no Jew could understand or accept the reasoning or rationale in keeping with the idea that it transcends a Jewish epistemological mooring. Nevertheless, anyone other than a Jew, perhaps to include a Gentile atheist, should be able to weigh whether or not the Christian meaning of the red heifer is rational, has a rationale, which is to say, logical and meaningful within a basic or general theological context.



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Nechoma Greisman says:

The mitzvah of Parah Adumah is totally irrational — there is no rhyme or reason by which a person can figure out how this procedure makes any sense. Nevertheless, the Torah describes an exact procedure that a person must undergo if he wishes to rid himself of the impurity which is brought about by contact with a dead body.​

The problem with Greishman's statement is caught by her mentor Rabbi Schneerson:

Based on the above, it is necessary to clarify a statement in the Midrash, "The Holy One, blessed be He, told Moshe, `To you [alone] will I reveal the rationale of the [red] heifer.'" This indicates that the statute of the red heifer also possesses a rationale.​
Likkutei Sichos, Parshas Chukas II.​

Rabbi Schneerson's point is that if Moses can have the rationale for the red heifer revealed, then it doesn't absolutely transcend human reason; it's not utterly supra-rational. In his Likkutei Sichos, Rabbi Schneerson expends some number of pages trying to make sense of a decree that's said to be beyond human reason, but not beyond a particular human's reason (i.e., Moses). In effect, the meaning of the decrees isn't utterly transcendent, it just transcends those who's understanding of the Torah is beneath the rung Moses attained.

Which segues into a statement made by the Christian scholar R.B. Thieme, Jr., to the effect that because of the revelation of Christ, every Christian, even those who aren't theological scholars or in any way akin to the Jewish sages, has access, nevertheless, to domains of the Torah beyond even Moses. Col. Thieme is suggesting that the meaning of the red heifer, which transcends Jewish understanding, is the very basis of the Christian's most basic understanding of the scriptures, the understanding whose foundation is found in the four Gospels of the Christian canon.

A justification of Col. Thieme's statement would require delineating the meaning of the red heifer in a reasonable and rational manner that both anchors the Christian's most basic belief without in any way contradicting Jewish teaching concerning the meaning of the Torah. Should this be accomplished, it's possible that no Jew could understand or accept the reasoning or rationale in keeping with the idea that it transcends a Jewish epistemological moring. Nevertheless, anyone other than a Jew, perhaps to include a Gentile atheist, should be able to weigh whether or not the Christian meaning of the red heifer is rational, has a rationale, that is, well, logical and rational within a basic or general theological context.



John

The red heifer described would be rarer than testicles on a cow, so the emphasis is on uncleanliness.

So how to avoid it?

Respect the dying. Let them die with comfort and attention so that when they pass you can wrap, move, and bury the body without becoming unclean.

If this comfort requires the dying to be within a tent, the let it be, but consider yourself unclean for seven days when you enter to move the body.

Treat the dead body with respect by not disrespecting yourself.

Non-Jewish interpretation, so only looking at face value.
 

John D. Brey

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They don’t need to understand it, they just need to follow it.

Or maybe that is what they want you to think.

That's what the commentaries say about the chukkim. Faith and obedience is the key.

Nevertheless, every major commentator I've read tends to agree that there's a concerning paradox in giving a commandment/decree without giving a meaning for it. Yes, it can test the faith of the one receiving it. Yes, it can transcend the understanding of the receiver. But if there's no one but God who knows the meaning, and if that's the case forever, that's very problematic.

Hope and confidence will fade, even for Jews, but the Torah can never be unwritten.

Have you tried erasing the New Testament. The dammed pages they print it on are so thin you end up tearing everything to shreds.

Such is the burden of divine knowledge that a Christian must be satisfied with hope and faith in a Messiah they, statistically speaking, will never see return.

That's an interesting point. At first glance, waiting for Jesus to returns appears to be similar to a chok in that it requires pure faith that he will return. But on closer examination, it's fundamentally different. Jesus didn't give a symbol (like the ashes of the red heifer) and say that they would tell when he will return except that you can't decipher the symbol such that his giving it in the first place is peculiar.

The ashes of the red heifer are said to be the meaning of the entire Torah, except that a Jew can't come to know the meaning of the red heifer, and thus he can't know the meaning of the entire Torah, which Jesus said is, the meaning is, about him. . . Voila. The Jew can't know about Jesus until he knows the meaning of the ashes of the red heifer (which he will know about before this thread is done).

The nature of the chok of the red heifer seems similar to God telling Isaiah to seal up the meaning of his own prophesies so that Israel can't understand them? They too, Isaiah's prophesies (at least the latter half) seem to be about the crucified one (see fifty-three).

Yet the simple Jew lives perpetual in a juvenile state of blissful ignorance, reading word on a page they don’t understand but claiming to be waiting for the same man!

Your hemo-phallo preoccupation is what makes your titles special.

Again, that's an interesting observation. Particularly since the concept of "immaculate menses," is directly related to the blood of circumcision. The "rationale" concerning the ashes of the red heifer can be nakedly revealed to anyone who understand the relationship between menses and circumcision blood.



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That's what the commentaries say about the chukkim. Faith and obedience is the key.

Nevertheless, every major commentator I've read tends to agree that there's a concerning paradox in giving a commandment/decree without giving a meaning for it. Yes, it can test the faith of the one receiving it. Yes, it can transcend the understanding of the receiver. But if there's no one but God who knows the meaning, and if that's the case forever, that's very problematic.

The way I see it, which is from a practically view and not spiritually, is in the difficulty in sourcing a red heifer. The first problem is, if you did want to go searching for a red heifer then you would have to go to India where all the cattle at the time was coming from. The second problem is, if you were to tell the cow worshippers what you intended to do to the red heifer then you would being going home empty handed. You could of course lie about it, but I don't think that is a scenario to consider.

So, prevention is better than the cure.

I'm can only speculate but I am certain Jews have been burying their dead without needing to resort to purifying ash for quite some time now.


Have you tried erasing the New Testament. The dammed pages they print it on are so thin you end up tearing everything to shreds.
Ever smoked a doobie rolled from a page of Revelation?

That's an interesting point. At first glance, waiting for Jesus to returns appears to be similar to a chok in that it requires pure faith that he will return. But on closer examination, it's fundamentally different. Jesus didn't give a symbol (like the ashes of the red heifer) and say that they would tell when he will return except that you can't decipher the symbol such that his giving it in the first place is peculiar.

The ashes of the red heifer are said to be the meaning of the entire Torah, except that a Jew can't come to know the meaning of the red heifer, and thus he can't know the meaning of the entire Torah, which Jesus said is, the meaning is, about him. . . Voila. The Jew can't know about Jesus until he knows the meaning of the ashes of the red heifer (which he will know about before this thread is done).

The red heifer is the greatest of all the animals because its ash can purify man if he becomes unclean, allowing him to remain with Israel and God. However, God doesn't give such an animal easily, so keep its ash to as a sign of your humilty, devotion, and respect not only to God, but to your family that is Israel.

Otherwise, let the dead bury the dead.

But wait! Thanks to our taste for juicy steaks, we now have the Red Angus breed of bovine, so could be a game changer!


The nature of the chok of the red heifer seems similar to God telling Isaiah to seal up the meaning of his own prophesies so that Israel can't understand them? They too, Isaiah's prophesies (at least the latter half) seem to be about the crucified one (see fifty-three).

I wouldn't conclude like you have, but I can agree some of Isaiah's verses are eery.

Again, that's an interesting observation. Particularly since the concept of "immaculate menses," is directly related to the blood of circumcision. The "rationale" concerning the ashes of the red heifer can be nakedly revealed to anyone who understand the relationship between menses and circumcision blood.



John

I think Jews are generally hemo-phallo phobic, which of course is the chalk to your cheese.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
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Good grief! Circumcision, menses -- either you or your God (perhaps both) are totally obsessed with sex.

Hey, sex is fun, if you let it be. It's unifying, if you want it to be. Why don't you just try to enjoy it?
 

John D. Brey

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Good grief! Circumcision, menses -- either you or your God (perhaps both) are totally obsessed with sex.

Hey, sex is fun, if you let it be. It's unifying, if you want it to be. Why don't you just try to enjoy it?

Prior to it, living organisms were immortal. Loss of immortality is a high price to pay for an orgasm no matter how enjoyable it is.

Death, the literal dis-integration of the husk of the body, was the grim price exacted by meiotic sexuality. Complex development in protoctists and their animal and plant descendants led to the evolution of death as a kind of sexually transmitted disease.​
Lynn Margulis, Symbiotic Planet, p. 90.​

So why did living organisms trade an orgasm for death? Why did they allow death to enter the genome at the price of a good orgasm? Is sexual enjoyment worth the price of admission: death? No. And that's not what it's all about. Sex allowed evolution to produce mammals, with brains, in a relatively short time, cosmically speaking, in order to trick death all to hell.

We didn't trade sex for death. Immortality was biological in the good ole days. If a rock fell on you you would still die. The only way your immortality would serve you is if you were really careful not to get killed in the material world. But now we have access to a new kind of life, a new kind of replication, that isn't biological, and thus isn't subject to the death of the body.

When you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain, turning it into a vehicle for the meme's propagation in just the way that a virus may parasitize the genetic mechanism of a host cell. And this isn't just a way of talking . . . For more than three thousand million years, DNA has been the only replicator worth talking about in the world. But it does not necessarily hold these monopoly rights for all time. Whenever conditions arise in which a new kind of replicator can make copies of itself, the new replicators will tend to take over, and start a new kind of evolution of their own.​
Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene, p. 192-193.​
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the fleshly replicator . . . for if any man be in Christ, he is a new kind of creature: old things are passed away . . . If Christ be in you, the body will die because of the original sin [sex], but the spirit remains alive because of the righteousness of the non-carnal kind of life/replicator.​
2 Corinthians 5:16-17; Romans 8:10.​

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John D. Brey

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A justification of Col. Thieme's statement would require delineating the meaning of the red heifer in a reasonable and rational manner that both anchors the Christian's most basic belief without in any way contradicting Jewish teaching concerning the meaning of the Torah. Should this be accomplished, it's still possible that no Jew could understand or accept the reasoning or rationale in keeping with the idea that it transcends a Jewish epistemological mooring. Nevertheless, anyone other than a Jew, perhaps to include a Gentile atheist, should be able to weigh whether or not the Christian meaning of the red heifer is rational, has a rationale, which is to say, logical and meaningful within a basic or general theological context.

Claiming the basic Christian story found in the four Gospels sets forth a meaningful rationale for the ashes of the red heifer and thus the purification that comes from them goes against the grain of the statement that's already been quoted from Nechoma Greisman:

The mitzvah of Parah Adumah is totally irrational — there is no rhyme or reason by which a person can figure out how this procedure makes any sense. Nevertheless, the Torah describes an exact procedure that a person must undergo if he wishes to rid himself of the impurity which is brought about by contact with a dead body.​

To say the Gospels give a meaningful rationale for the nature of the ashes of the red heifer goes contrary to Greisman's claim that the nature of the rules concerning the ashes of the red heifer are senseless and irrational. Nevertheless, in the same article Greisman says this:

Yet another situation [beside contact with a corpse] which causes tumah [uncleanness] is birth. When a woman gives birth, she contracts a spiritual impurity called tumas yoledes. There are various other situations which the Torah describes, which also cause tumah [uncleanness]. The common denominator of all these kinds of tumah [uncleanness] is that they are all somehow related to the concept of death. Even childbirth is associated with death . . ..​

On this uncleanness associated with natural childbirth we have Rabbi Isaiah Horowitz, the holy Shelah, describing this particular uncleanness as a result of the "evil-smelling drop of semen" come, from the original sin in the Garden, which the Talmud relates to the first case of sexual congress. Horowitz's take on this kind of uncleanness is close to the Christian understanding spoken of by Thomas Aquinas:

What is genetically transmitted in the semen is human nature and, together with that nature, its sickness. The newborn child shares in the guilt of the first parent inasmuch as his nature is brought into being by a reproductive movement from that parent. . . Death has spread to the whole human race inasmuch as all have sinned.​
Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologia.​

Rabbi Horwitz says:

. . . nowadays the origin of man is the proverbial תפה סרוחה, the "evil-smelling drop of semen" familiar to us from the saying of Rabbi Akavyah in Avot 3:1. If Adam and Eve had not allowed themselves to be seduced into sinning [having phallic-sex], all seed would have been holy seed [clean rather than unclean]. The whole subject of the covenant, the ברית מילה [brit milah, ritual circumcision], which is performed on the reproductive organ, is designed to reconsecrate it to G-d. . . if man on earth had not failed and as a result become garbed in the pollutants emitted by the serpent, there would not have been such a thing as shame, negative aspects to the act of procreation. On the contrary, the act of procreation would have been the performance of a commandment exactly like that of putting on phylacteries and other commandments performed with one's body. The semen would have been an emission originating in the brain [rather than the biological serpent], and the person born as a result of such an emission would have come into the world with the same stature as Adam [clean rather than unclean].​
Shney Luchot HaBerit, Torah Shebikhtav, Vaera, Torah Ohr, 39 and 29.​

Because of the "evil-smelling drop of semen" come, from the biological serpent, procreation is unclean. Adam's sickness, eventuating in death, is passed on through the reproductive act, therein contaminating the womb, and the woman, with the Adam's sickness, which sickness is a death-sentence guaranteeing the one so conceived will eventually be, in every case where semen is part-and-parcel of the conception process, a corpse. With this in mind, we have another important statement from the holy Shelah:

A rather striking problem in the text is the description of the purifying waters as מד נדה, "waters of a menstruant," surely a very derogatory term in view of the purpose of these waters! And especially, since the Torah on occasion uses clumsy language in order to avoid describing something in derogatory terms (Rabbi Joshua ben Levi in Bamidbar Rabbah 19,2).​
Shney Luchot HaBerit, Torah Shebikhtav, Chukat Torah Ohr, 4.

The very waters (manufactured from the ashes of the red heifer) that purify from the uncleanness associated with death, i.e., a corpse, are called the derogatory term "waters of niddah," which speak of the blood that comes from a womb already contaminated by Adam's sickness because the womb from whence this blood comes was itself conceived in a manner [phallic-sex] such that it contracted Adam's sickness in the womb of the mother from whence it came. Therefore, calling the concoction made from the ashes of the red heifer "waters of niddah" (menstrual blood) implies that this particular menstrual blood is clean rather than unclean, and able to purify from the death, come, from the unclean reproductive process.



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John D. Brey

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The very waters (manufactured from the ashes of the red heifer) that purify from the uncleanness associated with death, i.e., a corpse, are called the derogatory term "waters of niddah," which speak of the blood that comes from a womb already contaminated by Adam's sickness because the womb from whence this blood comes was itself conceived in a manner [phallic-sex] such that it contracted Adam's sickness in the womb of the mother from whence it came. Therefore, calling the concoction made from the ashes of the red heifer "waters of niddah" (menstrual blood) implies that this particular menstrual blood is clean rather than unclean, and able to purify from the death, come, from the unclean reproductive process.

It's important to note that the ritual uncleanness spread by contact or nearness to a corpse only symbolizes the real death that's contracted, really, not ritually, at conception. This real death-sentence isn't ritual but real. It exists in every body conceived by means of the "evil-smelling drop of semen." The ritual uncleanness related to a corpse is merely a training aid in the service of understanding the real uncleanness of death that exists in the human body from the point of conception till that body becomes a corpse. Similarly, the real solution to this real death is ritually manifest by the "waters of niddah." The "waters of niddah" are themselves a ritual solution to a ritual manifestation of death. In the ritual of the "waters of niddah" there's a meaningful rationale concerning the real solution to death. The uncleanness of the corpse is a ritual training aid concerning the nature of actual death, and the "waters of niddah" are likewise a ritual training aid concerning the actual solution to the real death that comes to the human body through conception by means of semen.

Let us return to the statement of Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai, that it is not the dead body that confers impurity. What he meant was that the impurity is not caused by the physical body that we come in contact with, but impurity is rooted in the very concept of death. The fact that the body is inhabited by Samael enables a body to become impure at some stage. The same is true of the purifying powers of waters sprinkled with the ash of the red heifer. Though, technically speaking, these waters remove impurity from the person they are sprinkled on . . . what confers purity is not the waters we see but their metaphysical dimension in the regions beyond our powers of perception.​
Shney Luchot HaBerit, Torah Shebikhtav, Chukat, Torah Ohr, 21.



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John D. Brey

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It's important to note that the ritual uncleanness spread by contact or nearness to a corpse only symbolizes the real death that's contracted, really, not ritually, at conception. This real death-sentence isn't ritual but real. It exists in every body conceived by means of the "evil-smelling drop of semen." The ritual uncleanness related to a corpse is merely a training aid in the service of understanding the real uncleanness of death that exists in the human body from the point of conception till that body becomes a corpse. Similarly, the real solution to this real death is ritually manifest by the "waters of niddah." The "waters of niddah" are themselves a ritual solution to a ritual manifestation of death. In the ritual of the "waters of niddah" there's a meaningful rationale concerning the real solution to death. The uncleanness of the corpse is a ritual training aid concerning the nature of actual death, and the "waters of niddah" are likewise a ritual training aid concerning the actual solution to the real death that comes to the human body through conception by means of semen.

Let us return to the statement of Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai, that it is not the dead body that confers impurity. What he meant was that the impurity is not caused by the physical body that we come in contact with, but impurity is rooted in the very concept of death. The fact that the body is inhabited by Samael enables a body to become impure at some stage. The same is true of the purifying powers of waters sprinkled with the ash of the red heifer. Though, technically speaking, these waters remove impurity from the person they are sprinkled on . . . what confers purity is not the waters we see but their metaphysical dimension in the regions beyond our powers of perception.​
Shney Luchot HaBerit, Torah Shebikhtav, Chukat, Torah Ohr, 21.

What's not beyond our powers of perception is the fact that the ashes of the red heifer are being called "waters of niddah." That is, they seem to be rationally and logically situated as "clean menstruation" in contrast to the fact that normal, natural, menstruation, is "unclean," and thus represents death in some form. With that as the starting point of an attempt to use our powers of perception in order to intuit the rationale behind the ashes of the red heifer, we'd need firstly to understand the reason menstrual blood is "unclean" such that we could seek out a way in which whatever it is that renders menstrual blood unclean could be thought to be absent from the elixir called the "waters of niddah."

Of all creatures, man is the only one who experiences shame from his nakedness. This is one of the clearest indications of how Adam's sin affected his entire sexual makeup. Before the sin, the Torah says of man, (Genesis 2:25), "The two of them, the man and his wife, were naked, but they were not ashamed." After the sin, however, Adam was to declare (Ibid. 3:10), "I was afraid, because I was naked." This change dramatically indicates the fundamental change in man's attitude toward both sex and his body in his degraded state. . . [such that] it now becomes obvious why a woman is considered "unclean" when she has her period. This too is associated with humanity's degraded state and expulsion from Eden. Indeed, our sages openly declare that menstruation is a result of humanity's sin.​
Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Waters of Eden, p. 354 (of Anthology II).

And:

Incidentally, this explains why God's covenant with Abraham involved circumcision --- an indelible mark on the organ of reproduction. As the father of the "chosen people," Abraham and his children would now be able to use this organ to bring the holiest souls into the world. . . The covenant of circumcision was one of the things that elevated Abraham and his children from the fallen state resulting from the expulsion from Eden. As a result of this covenant, the sexual act of the Jew enters the realm of the holy, and partakes of man's optimum state before his expulsion. . . the sexual act is . . . [now] associated with man's state before the expulsion.​
Ibid. p. 355.​



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What's not beyond our powers of perception is the fact that the ashes of the red heifer are being called "waters of niddah." That is, they seem to be rationally and logically situated as "clean menstruation" in contrast to the fact that normal, natural, menstruation, is "unclean," and thus represents death in some form. With that as the starting point of an attempt to use our powers of perception in order to intuit the rationale behind the ashes of the red heifer, we'd need firstly to understand the reason menstrual blood is "unclean" such that we could seek out a way in which whatever it is that renders menstrual blood unclean could be thought to be absent from the elixir called the "waters of niddah."

Of all creatures, man is the only one who experiences shame from his nakedness. This is one of the clearest indications of how Adam's sin affected his entire sexual makeup. Before the sin, the Torah says of man, (Genesis 2:25), "The two of them, the man and his wife, were naked, but they were not ashamed." After the sin, however, Adam was to declare (Ibid. 3:10), "I was afraid, because I was naked." This change dramatically indicates the fundamental change in man's attitude toward both sex and his body in his degraded state. . . [such that] it now becomes obvious why a woman is considered "unclean" when she has her period. This too is associated with humanity's degraded state and expulsion from Eden. Indeed, our sages openly declare that menstruation is a result of humanity's sin.​
Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Waters of Eden, p. 354 (of Anthology II).

And:

Incidentally, this explains why God's covenant with Abraham involved circumcision --- an indelible mark on the organ of reproduction. As the father of the "chosen people," Abraham and his children would now be able to use this organ to bring the holiest souls into the world. . . The covenant of circumcision was one of the things that elevated Abraham and his children from the fallen state resulting from the expulsion from Eden. As a result of this covenant, the sexual act of the Jew enters the realm of the holy, and partakes of man's optimum state before his expulsion. . . the sexual act is . . . [now] associated with man's state before the expulsion.​
Ibid. p. 355.​



John

Interestingly, the heifer experiences a zavah/niddah, since it is an animal that doesn’t go through menstruation.

It does experience heat, and a bloody discharge can appear after this regardless if the heifer was fertilized or not.

The discharge, or maybe waters, therefore marks the heifers fertility and ability to create life, and not, as in humans, signify lack or loss of pregnancy. The ovum remains within the heifer, not being released out if it was not impregnated, perhaps keeping the heifer always “clean”.
 

John D. Brey

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The discharge, or maybe waters, therefore marks the heifers fertility and ability to create life, and not, as in humans, signify lack or loss of pregnancy. The ovum remains within the heifer, not being released out if it was not impregnated, perhaps keeping the heifer always “clean”.

Ironically, Rashi, along with various midrashim, says the red heifer is the mother of the golden calf. That's ironic in the extreme since the red heifer can't have been mounted. That means she's a virgin mother of a deity (the golden calf). She's a virgin, and her son is God. Since that's kinda kerygmatic sounding, one might question Rashi or others calling the red heifer the virgin mother of God. And since the red heifer can't have more than two black hair on her whole body, she could be said to be immaculately conceived.

Per usual, Rashi knows best, since Moses takes the golden calf (the son of an immaculately conceived virgin mother), burns it into ash, just like the mother, and puts the gold ash into the very water Israel uses as a mikvah. Gold ash mixed with water creates colloidal gold. Colloidal gold can have a red hue such that the waters of niddah created from the golden calf may have looked like menstrual blood.

Your statement could suggest that the blood of the red heifer is represented to some extent by her offspring. If this be the case, then Moses making a mikvah out of the blood of the golden calf (a mikvah is used to make something unclean clean) sounds even more kerygmatic since the blood of the virgin Mary's deified son is the elixir able to make the unclean clean throughout the Gospels.

If Mary birthed Jesus prior to menarche, then her menarche could easily be seen as the archetype of the ashes of the red heifer ("waters of niddah") since Rabbi Samson Hirsch claims a "womb-opener" פטר רחם purifies the womb he opens (in complete opposition to the serpentine womb-opener making the offspring of the womb, and the womb too, unclean, ala the "evil-smelling drop of semen"). According to Hirsch, Jesus would have cleansed Mary's still closed womb (by opening it prior to a fleshly serpent doing so) so that her menarche would be the only clean menarche come from a woman this side of heaven. Her clean menarche would represent (and be the result of) the virgin birth of the very son whose blood is advertised throughout the Gospels as the solution to sin and death.

There are things that stand in the heights of the universe, yet people take them lightly.​
Talmud, Berachos 6b.​



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Ironically, Rashi, along with various midrashim, says the red heifer is the mother of the golden calf. That's ironic in the extreme since the red heifer can't have been mounted. That means she's a virgin mother of a deity (the golden calf). She's a virgin, and her son is God. Since that's kinda kerygmatic sounding, one might question Rashi or others calling the red heifer the virgin mother of God. Since the red heifer can't have one black hair on her whole body, she could be said to be immaculately conceived.

Per usual, Rashi knows best, since Moses takes the golden calf (the son of an immaculately conceived virgin mother), burns it into ash, just like the mother, and puts the gold ash into the very water Israel uses as a mikvah. Gold ash mixed with water creates colloidal gold. Colloidal gold can have a red hue such that the waters of niddah created from the golden calf may have looked like menstrual blood.

Your statement could suggest that the blood of the red heifer is represented to some extent by her offspring. If this be the case, then Moses making a mikvah out of the blood of the golden calf (a mikvah is used to make something unclean clean) sounds even more kerygmatic since the blood of the virgin Mary's deified son is the elixir able to make the unclean clean throughout the Gospels.

If Mary birthed Jesus prior to menarche, then her menarche could easily be seen as the archetype of the ashes of the red heifer since Rabbi Samson Hirsch claims a "womb-opener" פטר רחם purifies the womb he opens (in complete opposition to the serpentine womb-opener making the offspring of the womb, and the womb too, unclean, ala the "evil-smelling drop of semen"). According to Hirsch, Jesus would have cleansed Mary's still closed womb (by opening it prior to a fleshly serpent doing so) so that her menarche would be the only clean menarche come from a woman this side of heaven. Her clean menarche would represent (and be the result of) the virgin birth of the very son whose blood is advertised throughout the Gospels as the solution to sin and death.

There are things that stand in the heights of the universe, yet people take them lightly.​
Talmud, Berachos 6b.​



John

The golden calf would have been calf first golden second, meaning as with all living creatures, when burnt it becomes ash. Blood included. Ash is the final state.


I believe Hebrew girls, like in most cultures, were wed once they became women, not before.

Having said that, if Jesus blood signifies anything, it is for the “cleansing” of the gentiles, or the unchosen, and not for the Jewish people, who do not require it.
 

John D. Brey

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The golden calf would have been calf first golden second, meaning as with all living creatures, when burnt it becomes ash. Blood included. Ash is the final state.

Gold is unique in the sense that because of its purity, even when its burned to ash it's still gold. It doesn't, when burned, carbonize like lesser purity things. Which is why it symbolizes deity. God didn't carbonize and was thus lionized in the burning bush. Moses couldn't believe his lyin eyes that God didn't carbonize. The golden calf could be considered a carbon copy of the asbestos-clothed Lord of the burning bush.

I believe Hebrew girls, like in most cultures, were wed once they became women, not before.

Human women are the only mammal whose breast enlarge prior to pregnancy. Though it's largely ignored, ala Berachos 6b, its a sign that a human woman is born with the capacity to give birth without the sinful fleshly serpent aiding that pregnancy. Other mammal's breasts enlarge when they're pregnant. The human mammal signifies the end of mammalian sexuality by means of the birth of a firstborn male whose mother's breast were already plump even though she hadn't yet had her menarche or undergone the sin archetypically required for pregnancy.

Hebrew girls were often promised to a husband well before the marriage or consummation of the marriage. One Hebrew girl was promised to a husband and had her breasts and stomach enlarge before both menarche and the chuppah. Every time you see a young virgin girl with large breasts it's supposed turn you on to the greatest Passion that ever was or will be. In the Tanakh these plump virgin breasts are called "tif'eret." Which speaks of an ornament of ultimate spiritual arousal. Adam Kadmon had wonderfully erect breasts and was supposed to give birth to a messianic golden-child prior to the first sabbath and menarche.

There are things that stand in the heights of the universe, yet people take them lightly.​
Talmud, Berachos 6b.​

Having said that, if Jesus blood signifies anything, it is for the “cleansing” of the gentiles, or the unchosen, and not for the Jewish people, who do not require it.

Why do they not require it?




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