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In an ideal world atheists would be apatheiststs (?)

Caligula

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In an ideal world people would be naturalist and the term atheist would not exist because there would be no theistic claim to reject.

In an ideal world the term naturalist would not exist because there would be no need to define an universal and default stance :).

I did not emphasized the term but the notion.
I would have found it great if god related questions were just a drop in the ocean of other interesting philosophical questions, with no special status. Saying that you don't care for the answer would have been nothing out of the ordinary.

...On the other hand, if such important questions would have never exist, it would have shown at least a lack of intelectual struggle. The fact that we now atrribute a higher degree of improbability for god's existence, creation etc. doesn't mean that, in the past, those kind of questions were as irrational or unreasonable as today.

But I didn't write this to argue with you. The worldview you propose is much better than the one I've proposed. It's just that mine sounds more fesable than yours. I have to remove only extremists in mine, you have to remove all theists :p.
 

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In an ideal world the term naturalist would not exist because there would be no need to define an universal and default stance :).

I did not emphasized the term but the notion.
I would have found it great if god related questions were just a drop in the ocean of other interesting philosophical questions, with no special status. Saying that you don't care for the answer would have been nothing out of the ordinary.

...On the other hand, if such important questions would have never exist, it would have shown at least a lack of intelectual struggle. The fact that we now atrribute a higher degree of improbability for god's existence, creation etc. doesn't mean that, in the past, those kind of questions were as irrational or unreasonable as today.

But I didn't write this to argue with you. The worldview you propose is much better than the one I've proposed. It's just that mine sounds more fesable than yours. I have to remove only extremists in mine, you have to remove all theists :p.

Wow very good point. Frubals.
 

Caligula

Member
Apatheist = You don't care about any idea or reference to god?

Then commit and be atheist. That's indifference. Unless they join religious forums and argue the point, then it's not.

Or don't label yourself at all. Easy. But making up a word no one knows is going to have you explaining yourself should the need arise. And that makes it necessary to explain why god isn't important. Sort of defeats the point doesn't it?

No! There are some ideas and references to god that I care for: those that affect my freedom (in a very large sense).
Apatheists are called pragmatic atheists, therefore, if this makes a difference for you, I commit being an atheist.

I usually don't want to label myself or be labeled. But if you do, I won't care. It wouldn't change my life a bit :). There's no need to call me anything at all. It is only important (I use this word for the sake of argument) to know that I don't care if there is a god and, if there is one, I don't care about his nature. Of course I don't care about anything below that (if it's a male, female or hermafrodite).

When I say I don't care I say a priori that any given answer won't change the way I interact with nature or the way I already perceive things. I may find the question or the answer to be interesting but that would only add to my knowledge and nothing else.
 
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