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In Texas, Hundreds of Thousands of Women Attempt Self-Induced Abortions...

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girlchristian

New Member
The data seems questionable:

The figure was found by asking an online, representative sample of 779 women whether they themselves or whether their best friends had ever tried to self-induce an abortion. Of the Texas women surveyed, 1.7 percent said they had performed an abortion on themselves, but 4.1 percent of them said their best friend had or they suspected she had.

So, we're throwing out a figure based on a sampling of 779 women AND going off the fact that some of them 'suspected' their best friend had tried to induce an abortion? Doesn't really seem like sound research.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/11/texas-self-abort/416229/
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think it's quite obvious that what the Texas politicians in general are trying to do is de facto negate the SCOTUS decisions that allow a woman to make her own choice, whether we may agree with their decisions or not. The reality is that there will be carnage especially of young women who are desperate enough to take such drastic measures, and women with more money can go to another state or even another country.

Personally, I do not agree with abortion except to save the life of the woman, but there's no way that I am going to tell a pregnant woman what she must do-- that's not my choice to make.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
girlchristian said:
The data seems questionable:

The figure was found by asking an online, representative sample of 779 women whether they themselves or whether their best friends had ever tried to self-induce an abortion. Of the Texas women surveyed, 1.7 percent said they had performed an abortion on themselves, but 4.1 percent of them said their best friend had or they suspected she had.

So, we're throwing out a figure based on a sampling of 779 women AND going off the fact that some of them 'suspected' their best friend had tried to induce an abortion? Doesn't really seem like sound research.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/11/texas-self-abort/416229/
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I found the data suspect too, but even if it's within an order of magnitude correct, it still points to much needless harm.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
metis said:
Personally, I do not agree with abortion except to save the life of the woman.....
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This is a good opportunity to point out that I'm liberaler than you are.

And for added fun, I found this.....
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Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Regardless of the validity of the actual numbers, it is common sense that when women are denied medically proper abortions, they will attempt to self-induce. It's what women did for most of our species' history. People do the same sort of thing when they're denied or lack access to health care services in general - they self-medicate, or fail to get treatment at all.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Jumi said:
Preventing needless harm isn't everybody's goal, sadly.
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To be fair, some consider abortion quite harmful.....you know....to the "child".
We just disagree about whether the fetus is entitled to the rights of a child, & how to balance its rights against those of the mother.
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Sunstone said:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/17/texas-women-self-induced-abortions-study

This seems to be a consequence of Texas efforts to close abortion centers.

Please discuss.
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This is exactly why I can't believe every woman in the world is not Pro-Choice. No where is it written that you must have an abortion, but if that is your choice you should have access to a medical, or paramedical, facility to have the procedure done. Back in the day this was done with a coat hanger and garden hoses in dirty kitchens.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
BSM1 said:
This is exactly why I can't believe every woman in the world is not Pro-Choice. No where is it written that you must have an abortion, but if that is your choice you should have access to a medical, or paramedical, facility to have the procedure done. Back in the day this was done with a coat hanger and garden hoses in dirty kitchens.
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Why should all women believe alike?
 
Quetzal

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
tytlyf said:
What Texans and conservatives don't understand is that there will be more abortions if PP is shut down. The majority of services at PP are to help women avoid getting pregnant. Oh well, this much was obvious.
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"But... ABORTIONS" appears to be the clear counter argument.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
tytlyf said:
What Texans and conservatives don't understand is that there will be more abortions if PP is shut down. The majority of services at PP are to help women avoid getting pregnant. Oh well, this much was obvious.
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And that is an important point that all too often gets overlooked.
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
tytlyf said:
What Texans and conservatives don't understand is that there will be more abortions if PP is shut down. The majority of services at PP are to help women avoid getting pregnant. Oh well, this much was obvious.
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Every now and then I consider starting a thread about this exact topic. As much as I oppose elective abortion I staunchly support PP because it is the best "prevention of abortion" provider in the USA.
Without a close second that I am aware of.
Tom
 
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