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In the Beginning...

sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

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DennisTate said:
Ok... now that we are on page two of your discussion... I assume that your expectations lower a little......

Genesis 1:1 =



but.. before Genesis 1:2... the following happened:




Rev 12:4

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
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My expectations are in the toilet. It seems only one post addresses the op. I'm not asking about any gap. I'm a asking about before that.
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

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David T said:
The question really is, is the bible some ancient science text , talking about causality? Now we could "believe" that. We could have what we "believe" be affirmed by an observation of religion itself today. But I would question that assumption based on basic science. Since basic child like application of science to the question is the text a science text is not applied it is automatically assumed like religion it is. It's outdated science from an atheist view its relevant science to a believer. I see no difference between the two. Thus the original question is a symptom not an actual question.
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"Good grief," Charlie Brown sighed. This is not what I'm asking about.
 
socharlie

socharlie

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sandy whitelinger said:
So He made earth. Why heaven? What was wrong with where He was before?
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God is One, whatever exists is part of ONE. Human souls are part of what God is. Souls had defect - ego. To fix that defect another world where souls can act and materialize good and evil was designed.
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

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socharlie said:
God is One, whatever exists is part of ONE. Human souls are part of what God is. Souls had defect - ego. To fix that defect another world where souls can act and materialize good and evil was designed.
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I'm thinkn that was why he created the world. Why was heaven needed? We obviously need to be changed to reside in heaven. Will we need to change again to get to where God was before the beginning? I'm cool with going there and being one.
 
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David T

David T

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sandy whitelinger said:
I'm thinkn that was why he created the world. Why was heaven needed? We obviously need to be changed to reside in heaven. Will we need to change again to get to where God was before the beginning? I cool with going there and being one.
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It's exactly how you read it. It's taking a rose running it on puree in the blender and asking what's the form of the flower based on puree. In Culture that's called normal. I find it odd.
 
socharlie

socharlie

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sandy whitelinger said:
I'm thinkn that was why he created the world. Why was heaven needed? We obviously need to be changed to reside in heaven. Will we need to change again to get to where God was before the beginning? I cool with going there and being one.
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you said that NT mentioned three heavens. In Genesis is spoken about lower world which where we live and talk on RF board. That is the heaven where human souls wearing meat bodies live.
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

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socharlie said:
you said that NT mentioned three heavens. In Genesis is spoken about lower world which where we live and talk on RF board. That is the heaven where human souls wearing meat bodies live.
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I said Genesis 1 defines three heavens. Revelation confirms it.

Meat lives in the world.
 
David T

David T

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sandy whitelinger said:
I'm missing the analogy.
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This is why I don't attend church.. It's a religion founded by a woman and explained by men. So mary magdalene is very sharp.. Hildegard de bingen said 1200AD "we cannot live in an interpreted world, for an interpreted world is not home"so if I read a house statement I am saying you can't understand the text till you get home. Nature is home not the buildings we exist in culturally. Nature alive or extinction is what we confront today. Any deviation off that I instantly call a symptom.
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

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David T said:
This is why I don't attend church.. It's a religion founded by a woman and explained by men. So mary magdalene is very sharp.. Hildegard de bingen said 1200AD "we cannot live in an interpreted world, for an interpreted world is not home"so if I read a house statement I am saying you can't understand the text till you get home. Nature is home not the buildings we exist in culturally. Nature alive or extinction is what we confront today. Any deviation off that I instantly call a symptom.
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Ok, either you or I is all muddled up. Are you saying we won't know the answer to my op til we get there?
 
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socharlie

socharlie

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it is all part of the physical space around Earth. NT (Greek) uses the term in both physical and spiritual sense.
 
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