Income Inequality.

[Shadow Wolf]

However, should anyone be able to vote within the primaries of the opposing party? Probably not. It seems too easy to organize and sabotage the strongest opposition to their own candidate.

That had some Reps in Indiana back in '07 going to the Dem primary (Indiana is an honor systm) to vote for Hillary because she'd be am easeir opponent for McCain.
But on the other hand the normal way just lets the fan club decide who gets have a turn screwing the nation.

 

[Kfox]

Where is your counter data?

We have industrial progress since the Spinning Jenny and all over the world but only in the US and only since the '80s does it cause so much poverty? Explain.

My explanation is that you are wrong. Just because you say modern technology causes poverty, does not make it true.

Also, you are confirming my thesis that in capitalism this is inevitable. Those who have money to invest, can make more money while the workers are excluded from progress.

Are you kidding? Workers invest more money than anyone else!

 

[Kfox]

Okay. What is responsible for the inflation of costs and stagnation of pay?

Lots of stuff to include safer working conditions, more paid time off for issues like getting pregnant, taking care of your parents or sick child, a lot more money is being taking out of your paycheck for such luxuries. And what evidence do you have that pay has stagnated compared to inflation, and that technology is responsible?

 

[Kfox]

Seattle and Minneapolis are both quite a ways from where I'm at in southern Arizona, though there wasn't that much rioting or violence in my city.

I do recall an instance where the Border Patrol had someone pulled over near a park, suspecting he was an illegal immigrant, and very quickly, dozens of people started converging on them and asking them what are they doing and why they harassing this man. That night, I saw a whole bunch of Border Patrol vehicles with lights on and speeding in that direction.

Maybe if some bystanders had done that in Minneapolis on that day, George Floyd might still be alive.

Actually if Floyd were white, the officers likely would have gotten away with it because nobody would have noticed.

 

[Kfox]

No, that belief is called American Exceptionalism and it's a lie.

No, this logic can be applied to plenty of countries.

 

[Stevicus]

Actually if Floyd were white, the officers likely would have gotten away with it because nobody would have noticed.

There probably wouldn't have been any riots, although that doesn't mean the cops would have gotten away with it.

 

[Kfox]

There are no know objective facts that prevents it from working in the USA. That absurd is a feeling in you.

I'm only expressing my opinion; just like you.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I'm only expressing my opinion; just like you.

Yeah, but you are not the USA as such, neither for now or the future.

 

[Kfox]

There probably wouldn't have been any riots, although that doesn't mean the cops would have gotten away with it.

You gotta realize, cops have been putting knee on neck or chest to restrain a suspect for forever and a day in this country. Usually everything works out fine, but every now and then someone dies of this (usually when a lot of drugs are involved). Up till Floyd the people who died this way were white, and the cop always got away with it; but the minute it happened to a black man, BLM got involved everybody noticed, protested and the cops got convicted. Had he been white it likely would have been business as usual with the cops getting away with it like with the deaths of Tony Tempa ,Edward Bronstien, or Timothy Coffman

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You gotta realize, cops have been putting knee on neck or chest to restrain a suspect for forever and a day in this country. Usually everything works out fine, but every now and then someone dies of this (usually when a lot of drugs are involved). Up till Floyd the people who died this way were white, and the cop always got away with it; but the minute it happened to a black man, BLM got involved everybody noticed, protested and the cops got convicted. Had he been white it likely would have been business as usual with the cops getting away with it like with the deaths of Tony Tempa ,Edward Bronstien, or Timothy Coffman

Can you spell out the actual problem?
I am not sure if it is racism against whites or that is somehow wrong, that it was made to be about racism against blacks? Or what?

 

[Mark Charles Compton]

Lots of stuff to include safer working conditions, more paid time off for issues like getting pregnant, taking care of your parents or sick child, a lot more money is being taking out of your paycheck for such luxuries.

I've never had any of the luxuries (including safe work conditions) that you claim employers provide and charge me for, which I believe is illegal as the employer taxes pay for most if not all of those. Of course, when did the law ever stop a business owner from breaking it?

My last employer was reported constantly to the health department and OSHA, the agents that are supposed to investigate them were obviously taking a cut on the side.

Business owners are the best, aren't they?

And what evidence do you have that pay has stagnated compared to inflation, and that technology is responsible?

The statistics that have already been linked in this thread.

 

[metis]

Reminded me why you were on ig before I uniggrd everyone.

I have no clue what you're saying, nor do I even care as it seems that all you like to do is to troll around here. So, I'm no longer going to waste my time.

 

[Stevicus]

You gotta realize, cops have been putting knee on neck or chest to restrain a suspect for forever and a day in this country. Usually everything works out fine, but every now and then someone dies of this (usually when a lot of drugs are involved). Up till Floyd the people who died this way were white, and the cop always got away with it; but the minute it happened to a black man, BLM got involved everybody noticed, protested and the cops got convicted. Had he been white it likely would have been business as usual with the cops getting away with it like with the deaths of Tony Tempa ,Edward Bronstien, or Timothy Coffman

I'm not familiar with the cases you're referring to. I'm not doubting that there are plenty of whites who have been mistreated and even murdered by cops, although whether they get away it can be due to a variety of circumstances.

In my own city, I've known people who had family members, friends, employers, etc., who may have had some level of pull with the local government. As one example, I knew a co-worker whose father was a high-ranking official with the Border Patrol, and he related a story about how he was pulled over by a motorcycle cop who had some kind of shaky reason for stopping him and seemed like he was just out to mess with someone. My co-worker was a young guy, who would dress somewhat shabbily with a bit of arrogant demeanor that would likely trigger the average cop. However, once the cop ran his ID check and found out who his father was, he turned white and let him go, but still somewhat upset and saying "if your father wasn't who he was, you'd be in big trouble right now."

So, if you're in your own town and you're familiar with the local hierarchy and how things work, then dealing with cops can go much more smoothly. It's when I'm out of state that I worry more about cops.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No, this logic can be applied to plenty of countries.

Lots of countries know their **** stinks.

 

[Audie]

You think people choose that?

Last post you made up something I did not say,
about China being more free.
This time you pull a sentence out of context
to ask a snarky question that makes no sense
IF it were in context.
Now, i don't know why you behave this way
toward me.
Maybe you just don't like me. Which is fine.
I'm not overly fond of you.
But if / since you find it necessary to make things
up in order to criticize, maybe you could give
it a rest.

It's dishonorable.

 

[Audie]

There's nothing unique or exceotional about the American apes. Just a lie for people who don't want to believe itbwas just living far away from the front lines of WWII that spared the country from the heavy bombings that happened elsewhere that allowed America to power ahead and obtain a super power status.

One size fits all is poor policy. Simple.

You are welcome to trash your country. Just leave me out.
I said zero about exceptionalism or any of what you are on about.

Yet again, your " response" is some sort of fantasy strawman.

Cut it out already.

 

[Heyo]

I'm only expressing my opinion;

I realize that now.

just like you.

No, @mikkel_the_dane, others and I are stating facts supported by evidence.

 

[Kfox]

Can you spell out the actual problem?
I am not sure if it is racism against whites or that is somehow wrong, that it was made to be about racism against blacks? Or what?

The cops should have been convicted back when they were doing it to white folk, but they did'n't have a powerful organization like BLM to speak stand up for them so the cops got away with it. Another example of the power BLM has.

 

[Kfox]

I've never had any of the luxuries (including safe work conditions) that you claim employers provide and charge me for, which I believe is illegal as the employer taxes pay for most if not all of those.

Employers don’t charge you for safe working conditions, the employer is required to have you do things in a safe way which costs the employer more money than allowing you to do things in an unsafe way.

 

[Kfox]

I realize that now.

No, @mikkel_the_dane, others and I are stating facts supported by evidence.

What reply number were these facts listed? If you don't remember the link, can you give the jest of what these facts stated? Actually when I think about it, any economic system can work, the question is to whose satisfaction is it working? Even if 99% of the people hate it, it is still working for the 1%. Even slavery worked in the United States for many years, it only worked for the people who supported it; but that doesm't mean it was a good idea, or liked by the vast majority of people involved.