Indegenious Practices of Multiple Religions

[Unveiled Artist]

This was inspired by @lovesong . I thought we share some of our public traditions and practices that we may hold in our family or those of our religion.

For me, most things people call superstitious. Like excorcising our homes, upsidedown horse shoes, blood in drinks to "curse" someone. Overlaping things like salt in corners of our home which I read for other faiths, salt dispells spirits even good spirits rather than protects the home from just bad ones.

Im still learning. My family shares things a bit at a time but unlike many cultures, we dont have that "keep within the family" thing. So its a tough call in what we express.

As for other things that dont come from my family but are related, I guess you can say thats private only because the practices are directly related to my ancestors where the ones above are used in multiple faiths.

Oh. My friend has an interesting family practice. She washes her face with her menstral blood each month. She says it keeps her face clean of oil. She warned me before telling me.

How about you? Maybe share your own?

 

[Corthos]

I don't have that many, to be honest.

Never taking the same path twice in a row (if I can help it) is one that I adopted from my friend (it's a Guamanian habit that arose from harsh times during the Spanish occupation).

Another one I recently adopted was from my girlfriend's family; when I give her a gift, or vice versa, the recipient pays them a nickel/dime/quarter back (not doing so supposedly results in an argument - I think it's a fun superstition). =)

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I don't have that many, to be honest.

Never taking the same path twice in a row (if I can help it) is one that I adopted from my friend (it's a Guamanian habit adopted from harsh times during the Spanish occupation).

Another one I recently adopted was from my girlfriend's family; when I give her a gift, or vice versa, the recipient pays them a nickel/dime/quarter back (not doing so supposedly results in an argument - I think it's a fun superstition). =)

I heard that in the movie The Edge, no less. When a friend gives a gift, they give a coin in return or it cuts the friendship. Its also a Native American 'stition, as far it says. Though I dont believe movies are That off the mark. Most likely true.

Its nice you keep those practices. I think its hard to think of any because for many its part of their beveryday lives. Kinda like asking "what did you eat for breakfast?" type of thing.

Eh.

 

[arthra]

We have an Ayyam-i-Ha Camel that we use to distribute gifts for Ayyam-i-Ha in our family.. When my children were growing up my middle son and I fashioned a camel out of chicken wire and laid paper- mache over it and painted it gold.. it had a satchel for gifts during Ayyam-i-Ha... Now a days we use a camel puppet.

 

[Corthos]

I heard that in the movie The Edge, no less. When a friend gives a gift, they give a coin in return or it cuts the friendship. Its also a Native American 'stition, as far it says. Though I dont believe movies are That off the mark. Most likely true.

Its nice you keep those practices. I think its hard to think of any because for many its part of their beveryday lives. Kinda like asking "what did you eat for breakfast?" type of thing.

Eh.

Oh yah? Her family is Filipino. =)

Hmmm... There's truth to what you say. Come to think about it, I guess another thing I do before stepping into a (generally) challenging situation is say an Ashem Vohu prayer... I guess I never thought of that because, as you say, it becomes a part of one's self, and a natural part of every day life. =)

 

[Unveiled Artist]

We have an Ayyam-i-Ha Camel that we use to distribute gifts for Ayyam-i-Ha in our family.. When my children were growing up my middle son and I fashioned a camel out of chicken wire and laid paper- mache over it and painted it gold.. it had a satchel for gifts during Ayyam-i-Ha... Now a days we use a camel puppet.

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Nice. Hm. What is Ayyam i-Ha? A holiday? Hmm. A camel. Where you from?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Oh yah? Her family is Filipino. =)

Hmmm... There's truth to what you say. Come to think about it, I guess another thing I do before stepping into a (generally) challenging situation is say an Ashem Vohu prayer... I guess I never thought of that because, as you say, it becomes a part of one's self, and a natural part of every day life. =)

Yep. She was born in the states but she is full filipino. Didnt know that was a custom in that culture. Interesting.

What does Ashem Vohu mean?

 

[Corthos]

Yep. She was born in the states but she is full filipino. Didnt know that was a custom in that culture. Interesting.

What does Ashem Vohu mean?

Ashem vohû vahishtem astî. Ushtâ astî
Ushtâ ahmâi hyat ashâi vahishtâi ashem.

"Righteousness is the best good. It is radiant happiness. Radiant happiness comes to the person to whom righteousness is for the sake of the best righteousness alone."

To me, It's a reminder to be mindful of the best course of action in a given situation, and to keep one's eyes on the prize (positive goals)... It's an incredibly ancient mantra, and it serves as an encouraging boot up the proverbial rear end.

 

[psychoslice]

Humans are very curios animals, they will believe in anything that relates to whatever they don't understand, religion or whatever, they will believe in, and this is why we have so many religions, all because of our superstations.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Humans are very curios animals, they will believe in anything that relates to whatever they don't understand, religion or whatever, they will believe in, and this is why we have so many religions, all because of our superstations.

Do you have any superstitions?

 

[Ingledsva]

This was inspired by @lovesong . I thought we share some of our public traditions and practices that we may hold in our family or those of our religion.

For me, most things people call superstitious. Like excorcising our homes, upsidedown horse shoes, blood in drinks to "curse" someone. Overlaping things like salt in corners of our home which I read for other faiths, salt dispells spirits even good spirits rather than protects the home from just bad ones.

Im still learning. My family shares things a bit at a time but unlike many cultures, we dont have that "keep within the family" thing. So its a tough call in what we express.

As for other things that dont come from my family but are related, I guess you can say thats private only because the practices are directly related to my ancestors where the ones above are used in multiple faiths.

Oh. My friend has an interesting family practice. She washes her face with her menstral blood each month. She says it keeps her face clean of oil. She warned me before telling me.

How about you? Maybe share your own?

I found the salt magic interesting, - because there are multiple verses where the ancient Hebrew are doing magic with salt.

2Ki 2:19 And the men of the city said to Elisha, Behold, now, the site of the city is good, as my master sees, but the waters are bad; and the ground causes barrenness.

2Ki 2:20 And he said, Bring a new cruse to me, and put salt there. And they took it to him.

2Ki 2:21 And he went out to the source of the waters and threw salt there, and said, So says YHVH, I have given healing to these waters; there shall not be death and barrenness there any more.

This one also sounds like they though Salt had magical cleansing/eliminating power.

Eze 43:21 And you shall take the bull of the sin offering, and he shall burn it at the appointed place of the house outside the sanctuary.

Eze 43:24 And you shall bring them before YHVH, and the priests shall throw salt on them, and they shall offer them for a burnt offering to YHVH.

And a covenant of SALT.

Num 18:19 All the heave offerings of the holy things which the sons of Israel shall lift up to YHVH, I have given to you and to your sons, and to your daughters with you, by a never ending statute, a covenant of salt, it shall be forever before YHVH to you and to your seed with you.

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[psychoslice]

Do you have any superstitions?

No, non at all, have you ?.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

No, non at all, have you ?.

In my OP.

They dont have to be "superstitious".

 

[psychoslice]

In my OP.

They dont have to be "superstitious".

Well yes, if their no superstations then their not superstations.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Well yes, if their no superstations then their not superstations.

A lot of us dont see our practices as superstition. They are just part of our everyday routine. In many countries, they most likely have no word such as superstitions.

If anything, 90 percent of the world dont distinguish between the two. 10 percent are skeptics or thinks its hogwosh.

If you dont believe in "superstitions" or have traditions that "others" may call superstitious even though they are not, how would your views override the people who know a lot are real?

Also, is there something in your family you have that contributes to this thread even at minimum?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I found the salt magic interesting, - because there are multiple verses where the ancient Hebrew are doing magic with salt.

2Ki 2:19 And the men of the city said to Elisha, Behold, now, the site of the city is good, as my master sees, but the waters are bad; and the ground causes barrenness.

2Ki 2:20 And he said, Bring a new cruse to me, and put salt there. And they took it to him.

2Ki 2:21 And he went out to the source of the waters and threw salt there, and said, So says YHVH, I have given healing to these waters; there shall not be death and barrenness there any more.

This one also sounds like they though Salt had magical cleansing/eliminating power.

Eze 43:21 And you shall take the bull of the sin offering, and he shall burn it at the appointed place of the house outside the sanctuary.

Eze 43:24 And you shall bring them before YHVH, and the priests shall throw salt on them, and they shall offer them for a burnt offering to YHVH.

And a covenant of SALT.

Num 18:19 All the heave offerings of the holy things which the sons of Israel shall lift up to YHVH, I have given to you and to your sons, and to your daughters with you, by a never ending statute, a covenant of salt, it shall be forever before YHVH to you and to your seed with you.

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Thats interesting. My grandmother is the one who told us about that. She's christian. Wouldnt be surprise ifnthats were she picked it up.

We have another one, I dont know if its superstitious. We use a piece of brown paper bag to put under our nose to prevent nose bleeds. Not stuff the nose just place it at the rim.

I wonder if thats biblical.

 

[psychoslice]

A lot of us dont see our practices as superstition. They are just part of our everyday routine. In many countries, they most likely have no word such as superstitions.

If anything, 90 percent of the world dont distinguish between the two. 10 percent are skeptics or thinks its hogwosh.

If you dont believe in "superstitions" or have traditions that "others" may call superstitious even though they are not, how would your views override the people who know a lot are real?

Also, is there something in your family you have that contributes to this thread even at minimum?

If your talking about conditioning by family, I suppose there is something I said that could have been from that conditioning ?. I see superstition if we call it that or not, as something that we don't know what it is or how it works. Its like back many years ago, much was seen as superstition because they never knew or were ignorant of what it really was, maybe if someone died when there was a lightening storm, that person probably thought the storm brought on the death, and of course someone somewhere is going to die when there is a storm, but in truth the storm had nothing to do with the death.

 

[arthra]

Nice. Hm. What is Ayyam i-Ha? A holiday? Hmm. A camel. Where you from?

We Baha'is observe four to five days a year Baha'u'llah designated for "feasting, rejoicing and charity":

"He enjoined upon His followers to devote these days to feasting, rejoicing, and charity."

(Compilations, NSA USA - Developing Distinctive Baha'i Communities)

For more information on Ayyam-i-Ha see:

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/ayyam-i-ha-on-its-way.183817/

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If your talking about conditioning by family, I suppose there is something I said that could have been from that conditioning ?. I see superstition if we call it that or not, as something that we don't know what it is or how it works. Its like back many years ago, much was seen as superstition because they never knew or were ignorant of what it really was, maybe if someone died when there was a lightening storm, that person probably thought the storm brought on the death, and of course someone somewhere is going to die when there is a storm, but in truth the storm had nothing to do with the death.

Superstition could be the eye of the beholder. Like some countries use plants and things like that for healing. They didnt get a medical degree, but just knew from teachings what cured what. Someone who has no knowledge of botonomy and medicine may find the ingredients X culture uses as weird. That said culture may pray over what "potion" they create. They may have the ill person say a prayer of cleansing.

To outsiders, this looks superstitious as if its the same as black cats and ladders. Its not.

Maybe menstral blood cleans the face of oil. It could be medical. Why judge a book by its cover because its in a religious setting.

Salt is a preservative. You can also use it to kill some insects. You can use salt to soak up spills, clean the house, and do anything you would normally do with Pine Cleaner.

Saying a prayer over it and using it in a "weird way" doesnt make it superstitious. Just a tradition I made up that could be in X family for generations.

But indegeneous traditions say for healing arent superstitions. We arent talking about walking under ladders and black cats. A lot of these customs work just people not raised in it or even around it form skeptical opinions.

 

[psychoslice]

Superstition could be the eye of the beholder. Like some countries use plants and things like that for healing. They didnt get a medical degree, but just knew from teachings what cured what. Someone who has no knowledge of botonomy and medicine may find the ingredients X culture uses as weird. That said culture may pray over what "potion" they create. They may have the ill person say a prayer of cleansing.

To outsiders, this looks superstitious as if its the same as black cats and ladders. Its not.

Maybe menstral blood cleans the face of oil. It could be medical. Why judge a book by its cover because its in a religious setting.

Salt is a preservative. You can also use it to kill some insects. You can use salt to soak up spills, clean the house, and do anything you would normally do with Pine Cleaner.

Saying a prayer over it and using it in a "weird way" doesnt make it superstitious. Just a tradition I made up that could be in X family for generations.

But indegeneous traditions say for healing arent superstitions. We arent talking about walking under ladders and black cats. A lot of these customs work just people not raised in it or even around it form skeptical opinions.

Yes I can agree with all that, if something works then yes use it, but just like any placebo, sometimes the strong belief in whatever may work, its not the thing itself but our belief in that thing, and of course this is only one example.