India Just Got More Dangerous

[Omkara]

Aye, we especially want to hear the Indian perspective.

Personally, I like many things about India (even though I've never been there) & the
many people I've known from there. Thus, this news was all the more distressing.

Homosexuality is socially and politically irrelevant in India. Neverthess-

India's gay community scrambling after court decision recriminalises homosexuality - Asia - World - The Independent

The amount of nonsensical reportage in the foreign media about a country that constitutes 1/7 th of humanity is just shocking.

There have been less than a hundred convictions under this law over two centuries, and most of those were in the colonial era. Most of the convictions were cases of bestiality (the law targets 'unnatural sex' not homosexuality).

Also, the court did not 'uphold' the law, it ruled that repealing the law was the prerogative of Parliament, not the courts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, tis good to hear that such injustices at least might not be large in number.

 

[Father Heathen]

Please! Your connotations as well as father heathens are pretty racist.

What an embarrassingly ignorant statement.

Culture and race are obviously two completely different things. Race holds no relevance in regard to what I said, at all.
It's perfectly fair and valid to criticize and scrutinize a culture for embracing homophobia, misogyny, oppression, etc.
What isn't fair and valid is attempting to hide these glaring injustices behind race like you did.
Those who are prone to screech and squeal "Racism!" at the drop of a hat have no credibility nor integrity. Have you never heard the parable about the boy who cried wolf?

 

[Father Heathen]

What little I know about India, they have a caste system. There is no middle class. When they come to the States they have a hard time dealing with contractors. We work for a living so therefore we must not be upper class so we should work for nothing.

They love to negotiate and everything seems to be negotiable even after a deal is made.

My experience is not based on one person either, it seems to be a common trait. One guy had an arranged marriage. His family and her family picked them for each other.

It seems to be a somewhat oppressive, prejudiced, and backwards culture, yet people are labelled "racist" if those who carry out these practices just so happen to be of a difference race then those decrying the injustice, regardless of the fact that the objections had nothing at all to do with race. It's a pathetic cop-out.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What an embarrassingly ignorant statement.

Culture and race are obviously two completely different things. Race holds no relevance in regard to what I said, at all.
It's perfectly fair and valid to criticize and scrutinize a culture for embracing homophobia, misogyny, oppression, etc.
What isn't fair and valid is attempting to hide these glaring injustices behind race like you did.
Those who are prone to screech and squeal "Racism!" at the drop of a hat have no credibility nor integrity. Have you never heard the parable about the boy who cried wolf?

It seems to be a somewhat oppressive, prejudiced, and backwards culture, yet people are labelled "racist" if those who carry out these practices just so happen to be of a difference race then those decrying the injustice, regardless of the fact that the objections had nothing at all to do with race. It's a pathetic cop-out.

So true! Well said!

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

It seems to be a somewhat oppressive, prejudiced, and backwards culture, yet people are labelled "racist" if those who carry out these practices just so happen to be of a difference race then those decrying the injustice, regardless of the fact that the objections had nothing at all to do with race. It's a pathetic cop-out.

Speaking of other oppressive, prejudice and backwards cultures..

High Court throws out ACT's same-sex marriage laws - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

List of U.S. state constitutional amendments banning same-sex unions by type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where gay marriage stands in all 50 states

And for the somewhat stereotypical views of India as a culture that is backward...

This would not exist..

The Tantric Mysteries of India's Kama Sutra Temples

Where in the western modern free world is there such a free expression of Sex available during the same time as the temple?

As many would read the original article, the constitution was established in the 1900s, no where is there any trace of the cultural and traditional Indians portrayed in its constitution, nor is the Homophobic view a cultural tradition of India.

What they need to do is to change the Indian constitution to reflect the culture which is more open then many modern western cultures.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

More on backward and illiterate cultures.

Mother killed son, 4, because she thought he was gay

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

According to this, there seems to be a many backward and prejudice cultures in the world....pity.

Gay Star News | Gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender global news, entertainment, travel and features

 

[Revoltingest]

I speak for many in agreeing that India is not alone in such difficulties.
The thread was just to address changing law there.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

=Revoltingest;3714375]I speak for many in agreeing that India is not alone in such difficulties.

I know, all im doing is Puva Paksha (reversing the Gaze), which is part of my tradition and culture.

The thread was just to address changing law there.

I agree, which i said in my first post, that it needs to change, and as you rightly observe, India is not the only one that needs to change its Laws.

PS: Assuming this is addressed to me.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, it was for your enjoyment.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

Yes, it was for your enjoyment.

I did not enjoy this....

 

[atanu]

As far as I can perceive, R is least prejudiced. But his initial factual post brought out vicious generalisations that are ...... well.

It is always like "your **** is smelly...."

No doubt, on a relative scale India is poor. No doubt that there are many Indians who under the illusion that the greater prosperity of the west is heaven, have less than preferred cravings. No doubt India is scientifically less advanced. However, more people in India, IMO, know in their hearts that the outward glory is a false shine.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

As far as I can perceive, R is least prejudiced. But his initial factual post brought out vicious generalisations that are ...... well.

It is always like "your **** is smelly...."

No doubt, on a relative scale India is poor. No doubt that there are many Indians who under the illusion that the greater prosperity of the west is heaven, have less than preferred cravings. No doubt India is scientifically less advanced. However, more people in India, IMO, know in their hearts that the outward glory is a false shine.

Yes India seems to have many social problems, including such as the topic of the OP, I see the problem is in Modern India and Westernized Indian mindset, and it is the fault of the Indians who only appropriate the bad social behavior from the "Modern Western World". But the culture and tradition get abused for no reason, mostly by people who don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

I have nothing against any human beings sexual orientation or preference, its none of my business. I think like this because this is what is taught in my tradition and culture, and this is how my vary traditional Hindu Indian parents have brought me up, and in Hinduism itself there is no hatred towards anyone because of their sexuality.

Being prejudice and ignorant runs both ways.