India: Muslim Teenager in UP Arrested Under 'Love Jihad' Law for Walking With a Hindu Friend

[danieldemol]

'A Muslim teenager from Uttar Pradesh’s Bijnor has been arrested under the state’s new ‘anti-conversion’ law after he walked home from a birthday party with his former classmate, a Dalit girl.

The 16-year-old girl has repeatedly said that all allegations of ‘love jihad‘ are completely false, and that the boy was a friend of hers. “I have told this to the magistrate, and I will say this again. Those men had a problem with me walking with my friend. They made videos of me and are now calling it love jihad. I did nothing wrong. I went of my own free will,” she told the Indian Express.


On the night of December 14, at around 10 pm, the two were walking home from a friend’s birthday party when they were allegedly chased by a group of right-wing Hindu men, beaten with sticks and questioned. On learning that the two belonging to two different religions, the group forced them to go to a police station, the newspaper reported.'

Read more here: Muslim Teenager in UP Arrested Under 'Love Jihad' Law for Walking With a Hindu Friend

 

[Twilight Hue]

Its incredible on how India, a country that I once regarded as being a world spiritual superpower with no equal, has utterly and completely destroyed that once held dearly view.

 

[Spirit of Light]

'A Muslim teenager from Uttar Pradesh’s Bijnor has been arrested under the state’s new ‘anti-conversion’ law after he walked home from a birthday party with his former classmate, a Dalit girl.

The 16-year-old girl has repeatedly said that all allegations of ‘love jihad‘ are completely false, and that the boy was a friend of hers. “I have told this to the magistrate, and I will say this again. Those men had a problem with me walking with my friend. They made videos of me and are now calling it love jihad. I did nothing wrong. I went of my own free will,” she told the Indian Express.


On the night of December 14, at around 10 pm, the two were walking home from a friend’s birthday party when they were allegedly chased by a group of right-wing Hindu men, beaten with sticks and questioned. On learning that the two belonging to two different religions, the group forced them to go to a police station, the newspaper reported.'

Read more here: Muslim Teenager in UP Arrested Under 'Love Jihad' Law for Walking With a Hindu Friend

It is sad to read this story. It show how wrong people can understand the spiritual life of people and their religion. Those who did wrong here was the adults, who thought two young people was who did nothing against any religion was criminals...

Islamic law have become so twisted in part of this world. Sound like those men do not know what jihad means.

 

[Lyndon]

It is sad to read this story. It show how wrong people can understand the spiritual life of people and their religion. Those who did wrong here was the adults, who thought two young people was who did nothing against any religion was criminals...

Islamic law have become so twisted in part of this world. Found like those men do not know what jihad means.

Its not Islamic law, its Hindu law, educate yourself.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Its not Islamic law, its Hindu law, educate yourself.

Thank you for reminding me of that I have more to learn and understand

 

[Revoltingest]

Its incredible on how India, a country that I once regarded as being a world spiritual superpower with no equal....

Hmmm....I never thought of them that way.
Caste system & religious violence seemed
very backward.

 

[HonestJoe]

lsamic law have become so twisted in part of this world. Found like those men do not know what jihad means.

True, but in this case it's primarily Hindu extremists imposing the laws and a Muslim boy being punished.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Hmmm....I never thought of them that way.
Caste system & religious violence seemed
very backward.

The rose colored glasses I used to wear with great fondness, has since been thoroughly broken into little itty bitty pieces.

 

[Spirit of Light]

True, but in this case it's primarily Hindu extremists imposing the laws and a Muslim boy being punished.

Honestly, i do know to little about hindu law to speak about it this is a reason why my focus was on islamic law.
In this case maybe that was wrong to do
@Lyndon was altso kind to remind me of this.

 

[stvdv]

'A Muslim teenager from Uttar Pradesh’s Bijnor has been arrested under the state’s new ‘anti-conversion’ law after he walked home from a birthday party with his former classmate, a Dalit girl.
Read more here: Muslim Teenager in UP Arrested Under 'Love Jihad' Law for Walking With a Hindu Friend

I see this simply as Karma:
* Actions of Religious fanatics (violent acts) create reactions (fanatic rules) to balance things out ... and it might take as long as Religious fanatics learn the lesson
* The cause of the problem is "Religious Fanatics", this should be the focus. Solve this and the strict rules will be solved too. Try solving symptoms is no use

Religious extremism I see as a virus (like Corona). When we don't constrain the virus from the start, strict Lockdown is needed later

 

[Revoltingest]

The rose colored glasses I used to wear with great fondness, has since been thoroughly broken into little itty bitty pieces.

Tis better that way.
The only thing belonging on a pedestal is empty space.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

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Read more here: Muslim Teenager in UP Arrested Under 'Love Jihad' Law for Walking With a Hindu Friend

I am reminded of the following quote ...

“Racism is man's gravest threat to man - the maximum of hatred for a minimum of reason.”
― Abraham Joshua Heschel​

The same can be said about this. It is both tragic and far too unsurprising.

 

[Vinayaka]

Hopefully the judge will toss it out of court, based on the young girl's testimony.

 

[Yerda]

Or how the far-right, in cahoots with religious conservatives, continue to ruin everything.

 

[Vinayaka]

Here's an in depth article on love jihad. Personally, I think we'll see a few more instances of over-reaction by authorities. In this article the high courts analyzed 94 cases, and found 23 to be guilty.

In Islam there has always been an 'it's okay' attitude for men to marry outside Islam, but a ban on women marrying outside. I believe this is a result of patriarchy all around. It's the woman that has to convert, sadly demonstrative of chauvinism.

One question that arises is if the marriage (or pre-marriage) is truly love, why can't the young man convert to the woman's faith? That would clearly show it's love.

In any case, the anti-Hindu press will have a field day finding and focusing on examples that confirm their bias. In other words, we're sure to hear about the 23 guilty, but not about the 71 not guilty cases.

Love Jihad: Loving for religion

 

[Spirit of Light]

Here's an in depth article on love jihad. Personally, I think we'll see a few more instances of over-reaction by authorities. In this article the high courts analyzed 89 cases, and found 23 to be guilty.

In Islam there has always been an 'it's okay' attitude for men to marry outside Islam, but a ban on women marrying outside. I believe this is a result of patriarchy all around. It's the woman that has to convert, sadly demonstrative of chauvinism.

One question that arises is if the marriage (or pre-marriage) is truly love, why can't the young man convert to the woman's faith? That would clearly show it's love.

In any case, the anti-Hindu press will have a field day finding and focusing on examples that confirm their bias. In other words, we're sure to hear about the 23 guilty, but not about the 66 not guilty cases.

Love Jihad: Loving for religion

A good reply, and i found a lot of good the link too

 

[stvdv]

Here's an in depth article on love jihad. Personally, I think we'll see a few more instances of over-reaction by authorities. In this article the high courts analyzed 89 cases, and found 23 to be guilty.

The article is blocked in my country (Holland)

 

[stvdv]

One question that arises is if the marriage (or pre-marriage) is truly love, why can't the young man convert to the woman's faith? That would clearly show it's love.

Good point. In Islam a Muslima is not allowed to change her religion when marrying a non-Muslim man (I don't know about marrying a non-muslim woman). That seems racism to me. Now It seems that in India (Hinduism) they try to implement a similar Law. Does seem fair to me, both having the same racism Law.

Now Islam and Hinduism can sit around one table and come to the best and most fair solution (solves racism):
"Muslima and Hinduma can both convert to another religion"

 

[Vinayaka]

Good point. In Islam a Muslima is not allowed to change her religion when marrying a non-Muslim man (I don't know about marrying a non-muslim woman). That seems racism to me. Now It seems that in India (Hinduism) they try to implement a similar Law. Does seem fair to me, both having the same racism Law.

Now Islam and Hinduism can sit around one table and come to the best and most fair solution (solves racism):
"Muslima and Hinduma can both convert to another religion"

The Indian law isn't targeting any one religion. It targets the principle. In Kerala, where there is a large Christian minority, Christian churches have also complained about Love Jihad by Muslims. So it isn't just a Hindu-Muslim thing. Muslim parents would also have the right to complain (perhaps obviously) if their daughter was targeted by a Sikh, a Hindu, a Christian, etc.

The spread of religion has been aided in this way throughout history. In North America, the original Europeans often married indigenous women. In Canada the result is called Metis, and the result is a mix of Christianity and indigenous beliefs. It's not really some new idea to kill the men and marry the women.

 

[stvdv]

The Indian law isn't targeting any one religion. It targets the principle. In Kerala, where there is a large Christian minority, Christian churches have also complained about Love Jihad by Muslims. So it isn't just a Hindu-Muslim thing. Muslim parents would also have the right to complain (perhaps obviously) if their daughter was targeted by a Sikh, a Hindu, a Christian, etc.

It does seem to target Muslims though, because of the name they use "Love Jihad". Saying that it protects Muslimas also, does not take that away IMO. Muslimas are already protected by their religion, but it's good they are protected by Law too. BUT they better use another name.

But it's good information you give, that it's not targeting one religion; it targets the principle, being "enforce religion on women".

My initial thought was "it is not about racism at all". The problem here is the "evangelism principle". And that is exactly what Hinduism is all about "do not evangelize". So India acts Dharmic with their new Law. And when the evangelizing Religions stop Adharma then the Law won't be needed anymore.

The spread of religion has been aided in this way throughout history. In North America, the original Europeans often married indigenous women. In Canada the result is called Metis, and the result is a mix of Christianity and indigenous beliefs. It's not really some new idea to kill the men and marry the women.

And this example also clearly shows that evangelism principle is the root cause of all this.