Indonesian army hints at ending invasive 'virginity tests' for female recruits

[danieldemol]

'The Indonesian army has hinted that it will end mandatory "virginity tests" for female recruits, in a move that has been welcomed by human rights groups.

For decades, the army has subjected female recruits -- as well as, in some instances, the prospective wives of male soldiers -- to the "abusive, unscientific, and discriminatory" tests, Human Rights Watch said in a statement on its website.
During the invasive tests, women have two fingers inserted into their vagina by a doctor of either sex, in a bid to assess whether they have an intact hymen...'

Source: Indonesian army hints at ending 'virginity tests' for female recruits - CNN

I would tend to imagine that would discourage a proportion of women from serving, especially if the inspector has long fingernails.

Hopefully it becomes official and they extend removing the test to other government departments.

In my opinion.

 

[Revoltingest]

At least it was just fingers.

 

[Twilight Hue]

'The Indonesian army has hinted that it will end mandatory "virginity tests" for female recruits, in a move that has been welcomed by human rights groups.

For decades, the army has subjected female recruits -- as well as, in some instances, the prospective wives of male soldiers -- to the "abusive, unscientific, and discriminatory" tests, Human Rights Watch said in a statement on its website.
During the invasive tests, women have two fingers inserted into their vagina by a doctor of either sex, in a bid to assess whether they have an intact hymen...'

Source: Indonesian army hints at ending 'virginity tests' for female recruits - CNN

I would tend to imagine that would discourage a proportion of women from serving, especially if the inspector has long fingernails.

Hopefully it becomes official and they extend removing the test to other government departments.

In my opinion.

The test itself seems pointless anyways. Good move.

 

[stvdv]

I would tend to imagine that would discourage a proportion of women from serving

Yes, I am curioius why they would serve, so I googled

In 1959, with Soekarno's guided democracy policies now in force, the National Armed Forces considered making a historic decision to finally enlist women to serve in its ranks. For many years before, during and after the Indonesian National Revolution, many women fought as either individual rebels or as part of rebel formations that fought for Indonesia's independence from the rule of the Dutch and many women had even made societal advances for various causes, including feminism and the economic and social scene. The rights of women were one of the many rights fought for by the pioneer generations of Indonesian nationalists. For these reasons and others, Colonel Dr. Sumarno, then assistant chief of staff of personnel of the Indonesian Army, conveyed his ideas of the service of women for certain fields of assignment that required precision, perseverance, patience, and maternal qualities that became the nature of women to better achieve organizational affiliation within the ranks of the regular Army and in the reserves.

Indonesian army hints at ending invasive 'virginity tests' for female recruits

I wonder WHY they started doing these tests in the first place?
My first thought was "to have proof that she has not been raped (or had sex) while serving in the Indonesian army"

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The test itself seems pointless anyways. Good move.

Unless the point is subjugation and humiliation of females. Which seems the only point I can fathom for instituting the practice.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Yes, I am curioius why they would serve, so I googled

Indonesian army hints at ending invasive 'virginity tests' for female recruits

I wonder WHY they started doing these tests in the first place?
My first thought was "to have proof that she has not been raped (or had sex) while serving in the Indonesian army"

There is no reasonable purpose for it.

 

[stvdv]

Indonesian army hints at ending invasive 'virginity tests' for female recruits

I wonder WHY they started doing these tests in the first place?
My first thought was "to have proof that she has not been raped (or had sex) while serving in the Indonesian army"

There is no reasonable purpose for it.

It is a Muslim country (ca.86%), and I heard (in the news) that keeping virginity is important there, so these tests might have something to do with this
(I don't say that these tests are 100% proof though, just saying that I am not so surprised they use these tests)

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It is a Muslim country (ca.86%), and I heard (in the news) that keeping virginity is important there, so these tests might have something to do with this
(I don't say that these tests are 100% proof though, just saying that I am not so surprised they use these tests)

Good point.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Unless the point is subjugation and humiliation of females. Which seems the only point I can fathom for instituting the practice.

I think it might have a religious lean or a particular sense of morality that is driving it.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I think it might have a religious lean or a particular sense of morality that is driving it.

I am starting to recognize there is that component of it.

 

[Kooky]

I think it might have a religious lean or a particular sense of morality that is driving it.

Well, misogyny is a common component of societal morals all over the world.