Indus Valley, Ancient India, where the Hebrews, who were the Yadavas, came from—however earlier, what tribe spoke Tamil?

[River Sea]

Indus Valley, Ancient India, where the Hebrews, who were the Yadavas, came from—however earlier, what tribe spoke Tamil?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Has Yadavas left the Indus Valley (Exodus) during 1500 BCE, or exactly would they have left at 1446 BC?

Ancient India, as the Hebrews were Yadavas from the Indus Valley who traveled to Israel. So how would this be written in Hebrew?

What language was written in the Indus Valley, Ancient India, before or after what happened in the Levant during the Iron Age? Maybe @GoodAttention can help me with this due to researching 1900 BCE, which was the Iron Age, which was the 2nd millennium. I did my math, and 1900 BCE was in the 2nd millennium, which was 2000 BCE to 1001 BCE. Was the Tamil language spoken in ancient India during the 2nd millennium, while what language was spoken in the Levant during the Iron Age?

When was this written language that happened? Was there any written language in the Indus Valley, Ancient India?

I understand @GoodAttention is researching 1900 BCE, which includes within the 2nd millennium. Late would mean at 1001 BC and further away from 2000 BC. Am I understanding correctly? This is my new vocabulary:'millennium''. Late would mean the lesser of numbers. Early 2nd millennium would be closer to the larger number, which would be 2000 BC. So 1900 BCE would be closer to 2000 BCE and further away from 1001 BCE. @Bharat Jhunjhunwala has Exodus during 1500 BCE, and that also would be in the Iron Age. 1500 BCE would be in the middle of 2000 BCE and 1001 BCE. So would this be called middle? I'll go look online now. Yes, I'm correct. Online said: Yes, 1500 BCE would be in the middle of the 2nd millennium BC:

Earlier is when numbers get bigger. Later is when numbers get smaller. The Iron Age is the 2nd millennium, and when using the word late, that would be closer to 1001 BC.

The Yadavas (east)—that's what east means—is Ancient India, which was the Indus Valley. The Yadavas, with Moses (Krishna), traveled to Isha (Yisrael) from the 'east' which means Indus Valley, Ancient India.

Either from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala view, in which he shows the Yadavas left Ancient India in 1500 BCE and traveled to Israel, so that will be the "East," which is Ancient India, or from the views from @GoodAttention about 1900 BC, which is the Iron Age, and the trading that had happened with the Tamil language, that will be Ancient India. So two views, both about the East, which is Ancient India. Any areas I have wrong in this thread, please let me know.

This is me learning a new vocabulary, which is millennium. I'm practicing spelling this word millennium. So far, I understand the iron age is the 2nd millennium, which is 2000 BCE to 1001 BCE. If there's the word late for the 2nd millennium, then that would be closer to the lesser number, which would be closer to 1001 BC.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Has Yadavas left the Indus Valley (Exodus) during 1500 BCE, or exactly would they have left at 1446 BC?
Letter E means around about. So BCE means around that era. due to the letter E.

There are two views I'm learning about ancient India. One view is from @GoodAttention which is 1900 BCE, and the other view is from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala about Exodus from Indus Valley during 1500 BCE.

 

[GoodAttention]

Indus Valley, Ancient India, where the Hebrews, who were the Yadavas, came from—however earlier, what tribe spoke Tamil?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Has Yadavas left the Indus Valley (Exodus) during 1500 BCE, or exactly would they have left at 1446 BC?

Ancient India, as the Hebrews were Yadavas from the Indus Valley who traveled to Israel. So how would this be written in Hebrew?

What language was written in the Indus Valley, Ancient India, before or after what happened in the Levant during the Iron Age? Maybe @GoodAttention can help me with this due to researching 1900 BCE, which was the Iron Age, which was the 2nd millennium. I did my math, and 1900 BCE was in the 2nd millennium, which was 2000 BCE to 1001 BCE. Was the Tamil language spoken in ancient India during the 2nd millennium, while what language was spoken in the Levant during the Iron Age?

When was this written language that happened? Was there any written language in the Indus Valley, Ancient India?

I understand @GoodAttention is researching 1900 BCE, which includes within the 2nd millennium. Late would mean at 1001 BC and further away from 2000 BC. Am I understanding correctly? This is my new vocabulary:'millennium''. Late would mean the lesser of numbers. Early 2nd millennium would be closer to the larger number, which would be 2000 BC. So 1900 BCE would be closer to 2000 BCE and further away from 1001 BCE. @Bharat Jhunjhunwala has Exodus during 1500 BCE, and that also would be in the Iron Age. 1500 BCE would be in the middle of 2000 BCE and 1001 BCE. So would this be called middle? I'll go look online now. Yes, I'm correct. Online said: Yes, 1500 BCE would be in the middle of the 2nd millennium BC:

Earlier is when numbers get bigger. Later is when numbers get smaller. The Iron Age is the 2nd millennium, and when using the word late, that would be closer to 1001 BC.

The Yadavas (east)—that's what east means—is Ancient India, which was the Indus Valley. The Yadavas, with Moses (Krishna), traveled to Isha (Yisrael) from the 'east' which means Indus Valley, Ancient India.

Either from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala view, in which he shows the Yadavas left Ancient India in 1500 BCE and traveled to Israel, so that will be the "East," which is Ancient India, or from the views from @GoodAttention about 1900 BC, which is the Iron Age, and the trading that had happened with the Tamil language, that will be Ancient India. So two views, both about the East, which is Ancient India. Any areas I have wrong in this thread, please let me know.

This is me learning a new vocabulary, which is millennium. I'm practicing spelling this word millennium. So far, I understand the iron age is the 2nd millennium, which is 2000 BCE to 1001 BCE. If there's the word late for the 2nd millennium, then that would be closer to the lesser number, which would be closer to 1001 BC.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Has Yadavas left the Indus Valley (Exodus) during 1500 BCE, or exactly would they have left at 1446 BC?
Letter E means around about. So BCE means around that era. due to the letter E.

There are two views I'm learning about ancient India. One view is from @GoodAttention which is 1900 BCE, and the other view is from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala about Exodus from Indus Valley during 1500 BCE.

Hello @River Sea I will make a few points for now

(1) The iron age begins around 1200BCE, which is late 2nd millennium. I use BCE which means "before common era", instead of BC "before Christ". They are interchangeable.

(2) At 1900BCE the Indus Valley would have be in the Bronze Age.

 

[River Sea]

Hello @River Sea I will make a few points for now

(1) The iron age begins around 1200BCE, which is late 2nd millennium. I use BCE which means "before common era", instead of BC "before Christ". They are interchangeable.

(2) At 1900BCE the Indus Valley would have be in the Bronze Age.

From your response, @GoodAttention you claim the Iron Age begins around 1200 BCE, which is late 2nd millennium.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala shows in his book Common Prophets that Iron Age Beginning sometime after 1500 BCE

@GoodAttention what do you have 1500 BCE as the Bronze or Iron Age?

Because you @GoodAttention claim the iron age begins around 1200 BCE and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala claims it begins around 1500 BCE, then you two don't agree when the beginning of the iron age is then. Am I understanding correctly?

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Has Yadavas left the Indus Valley (Exodus) during 1500 BCE, or exactly would they have left at 1446 BC?

I can only say that from an Indus Valley perspective, the city of Chanu Daro declined around 1500 BCE. I go with the traditional biblical date of 1446 BCE as the date of Exodus, and I see every probability that they may have left at this time.

 

[River Sea]

I can only say that from an Indus Valley perspective, the city of Chanu Daro declined around 1500 BCE. I go with the traditional biblical date of 1446 BCE as the date of Exodus, and I see every probability that they may have left at this time.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala for me to practice

From book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala (Please read the below screenshot of the book)

Bronze Age Beginning about 3500 BCE.

PDF 27
The Prophets in Civilization The Prophets lived in the Bronze Age Civilizations. The task before us is to identify the places where the Five Prophets may have lived. We shall show later in this chapter that the Five Prophets lived between 4000 and 1500 BCE.

My response. So that means 1446 BC is the bronze age? Am I correct @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
What is this Hastinapur, Meerut, mid-2nd millennium BCE
@GoodAttention did they speak Tamil language, during Hastinapur, Meerut, mid-2nd millennium BCE

I found that PDF 203 or page 177 in your book @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

 

[River Sea]

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala shows in his book Common Prophets that Iron Age Beginning sometime after 1500 BCE

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Oh, that means 1446 BC might be the Iron Age and not the Bronze Age.
Oh, there's a lot of people from the Karmali tribe with the R-M124 DNA gene.
Also, Jews have this same DNA gene, the R-M124 gene.
@GoodAttention do the Karmali people speak Tamil?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala So all the sample size of Karmali, which is 16 people, had R M124, so that's why Karmali = 100%.

Yes. Correct.

 

[GoodAttention]

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Oh, that means 1446 BC might be the Iron Age and not the Bronze Age.
Oh, there's a lot of people from the Karmali tribe with the R-M124 DNA gene.
Also, Jews have this same DNA gene, the R-M124 gene.
@GoodAttention do the Karmali people speak Tamil?

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Hi @River Sea

I have no idea who the Karnali people are, but I would be very, very, sceptical of drawing genetic connections in this way.

The map area also overlaps with the area where Kurukh, which is a Dravidian language, is spoken.

North Dravidian languages - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala for me to practice

From book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala (Please read the below screenshot of the book)

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Bronze Age Beginning about 3500 BCE.

PDF 27
The Prophets in Civilization The Prophets lived in the Bronze Age Civilizations. The task before us is to identify the places where the Five Prophets may have lived. We shall show later in this chapter that the Five Prophets lived between 4000 and 1500 BCE.

My response. So that means 1446 BC is the bronze age? Am I correct @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
What is this Hastinapur, Meerut, mid-2nd millennium BCE
@GoodAttention did they speak Tamil language, during Hastinapur, Meerut, mid-2nd millennium BCE

I found that PDF 203 or page 177 in your book @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

The original Hastinapur is located at the site of Kalibanga in Rajasthan. The site at Meerut in the 2nd millennium BCE is a duplicate of Hastinapur, which has no relation to the original story in the 3rd- 2nd millennium BCE.

 

[River Sea]

The original Hastinapur is located at the site of Kalibanga in Rajasthan. The site at Meerut in the 2nd millennium BCE is a duplicate of Hastinapur, which has no relation to the original story in the 3rd- 2nd millennium BCE.

@GoodAttention did they speak Tamil language, during Hastinapur, Meerut, mid-2nd millennium BCE

@GoodAttention @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

What's this? [Black (Ganga-river) Island-born]
My question is, how were the Black Ganga River and the island born? What does that mean?

"The word bharat is a signifier of the competence achieved in creating alloyed metals: barad, barat ‘ox, bos gaurus’ rebus: bharat ‘mixed alloys’ (5 copper, 4 zinc and 1 tin) (Punjabi). Just as Sindon ‘cotton’ signified Sindhu-Hindu, the region, bharat ‘alloy of copper and zinc’ also signified the region with metalworkers who had unique alloying metallurgical competence, made bharatƗñce bhƗṇḍem ‘pots, pans, implements and weapons of bharata-alloy-ware’. That Kr̥ṣṇa DwaipƗyana VyƗsa [Black (Ganga-river) Island-born] kavi is also a competent astronomer is abundantly clear from the repeated celestial skymaps which are alluded to in the epic, MahƗbhƗrata."

My question is, how were the Black Ganga River and the island born? What does that mean?

Oh, and notice the metals?

From here I read

Mahābhārata is the most accurately dated historical text in the history of world literature, in the Story of Civilization.pdf

Mahābhārata is the most accurately dated historical text in the history of world literature, a golden-page in the Story of Civilization The monograph is organized in three sections. Section 1. Arthaśāstra Itihāsa, metaphors of aṣṭāśri yūpa, caṣāla,

www.academia.edu

Mahābhārata is the most accurately dated historical text in the history of world literature, in the Story of Civilization.pdf​

Srini Kalyanaraman

 

[GoodAttention]

@GoodAttention @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

What's this? [Black (Ganga-river) Island-born]
My question is, how were the Black Ganga River and the island born? What does that mean?

"The word bharat is a signifier of the competence achieved in creating alloyed metals: barad, barat ‘ox, bos gaurus’ rebus: bharat ‘mixed alloys’ (5 copper, 4 zinc and 1 tin) (Punjabi). Just as Sindon ‘cotton’ signified Sindhu-Hindu, the region, bharat ‘alloy of copper and zinc’ also signified the region with metalworkers who had unique alloying metallurgical competence, made bharatƗñce bhƗṇḍem ‘pots, pans, implements and weapons of bharata-alloy-ware’. That Kr̥ṣṇa DwaipƗyana VyƗsa [Black (Ganga-river) Island-born] kavi is also a competent astronomer is abundantly clear from the repeated celestial skymaps which are alluded to in the epic, MahƗbhƗrata."

My question is, how were the Black Ganga River and the island born? What does that mean?

Oh, and notice the metals?

From here I read

Mahābhārata is the most accurately dated historical text in the history of world literature, in the Story of Civilization.pdf

Mahābhārata is the most accurately dated historical text in the history of world literature, a golden-page in the Story of Civilization The monograph is organized in three sections. Section 1. Arthaśāstra Itihāsa, metaphors of aṣṭāśri yūpa, caṣāla,

www.academia.edu

Mahābhārata is the most accurately dated historical text in the history of world literature, in the Story of Civilization.pdf​

Srini Kalyanaraman

Please see the end of this thesis on page 105

Note on References

No references have been given within the text of this paper because no extracts or pictures have been taken from any other book. This paper contains the sky- views of astronomical references in Mahābhārata, which have been generated making use of Planetarium software. The pictures of excavated artefacts have been taken from the reports published by Archaeological Survey of India and Indian Archaeology Society. However, the names of authors of books and articles who might have influenced the thought process behind this paper are listed below with gratitude.


I do not trust any article that cannot provide any reference.

 

[River Sea]

Please see the end of this thesis on page 105

Note on References

No references have been given within the text of this paper because no extracts or pictures have been taken from any other book. This paper contains the sky- views of astronomical references in Mahābhārata, which have been generated making use of Planetarium software. The pictures of excavated artefacts have been taken from the reports published by Archaeological Survey of India and Indian Archaeology Society. However, the names of authors of books and articles who might have influenced the thought process behind this paper are listed below with gratitude.


I do not trust any article that cannot provide any reference.

That is sad that Srini Kalyanaraman didn't reference others. What was his goal for not showing referencing others? I wonder?

I think @Bharat Jhunjhunwala uses archeology to find dates.

How do you @GoodAttention find dates as you claim you prefer the sun calendar because it uses 12 months with no complications of 13 months?

The original Hastinapur is located at the site of Kalibanga in Rajasthan. The site at Meerut in the 2nd millennium BCE is a duplicate of Hastinapur, which has no relation to the original story in the 3rd- 2nd millennium BCE.

Millennium confuses me because I learn it different around the world because it depends on the uses of and when was it copper or bronze? Not all areas around the world used it at the same time. Would that complicate trading?

I'm not sure what hastinapur, kalibanga is what meerut is. I'll need to look this up. I just thought I was helping myself understand the different millennium and thought of exploring that.

Nilesh Oak looks at sky to understand dates

Mahabharata - Multidisciplinary Scientific evidence

Maybe both Srini Kalyanaraman and Nilesh Oak would disagree on how to use Sky for dates.

I think @Bharat Jhunjhunwala uses archeology to find dates.

How do you @GoodAttention find dates as you claim you prefer the sun calendar because it uses 12 months with no complications of 13 months?

Now to answer my own question

If 1945 BC and then 1880 BC, can a person say 1900 BCE and 1800 BCE and that's cover 1945 BC and 1880 BC, or can a person only say 1900 BCE and not say 1800 BCE?

The reason why I ask this is because Moses was born in 1525 BC and left in 1446 BC.

So could a person say 1500 BCE and 1400 BCE or only 1500 BCE?

 

[River Sea]

@GoodAttention @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Keep in mind I don't agree with everything on this website.

This website demonstrates the use of the body in communication, which results in showing outwardly

This info is from @Yokefellow

Here's an example of ribs that are 24 elders.

Here's showing the human egg cell was the tabernacle. What I wonder, how did they know the structure of an egg back when?

Most Holy Place

Most Holy Place. Science and Scripture combined! Comparing Bible verses to Cell Biology, Human Physiology, DNA, Atoms and more!

www.mostholyplace.com

 

[River Sea]

What I notice about religion from learning online so far is that people create religions from their past stories, and some even use body parts and then project outward. As you can see post above: showing the human egg cell was the tabernacle: That's religion though: as people created from something which in this case a physical body.

Yes, people can use anything to help them connect; however, hopefully no spiritual abuse to others though.

I understand religion as archeology past stories, I'm more into spirituality.
I allow light in me to teach me in the midst of my thoughts emotions how to drink from light.

Or I could write light as unconditional love.