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Infinite space?

Stevicus

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Is it beyond the physical? Can you describe it? Or is it beyond our small minds?

I imagine space to be one big empty and dark place. Even if we reach the end of the known universe and there are no more stars or galaxies, the emptiness might just go on and on forever. If there's a boundary, that would imply something on the other side.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I imagine space to be one big empty and dark place. Even if we reach the end of the known universe and there are no more stars or galaxies, the emptiness might just go on and on forever. If there's a boundary, that would imply something on the other side.
Hard to describe ain't it?
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Is it beyond the physical? Can you describe it? Or is it beyond our small minds?
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Infinite space ^^
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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Oh I think it's easy to imagine. Impossible to describe.

Only impossible to describe because you cannot imagine it. What you imagine in countable, measurable, therefore not infinite. So you imagine a little more, still countable etc...
 

Polymath257

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Is it beyond the physical? Can you describe it? Or is it beyond our small minds?

If space is infinite, then no, it is not beyond the physical. It is just that the physical is infinite in extent.

It seems to me that 'infinite space' *is* the description. It is describing the amount or extent of space.

Since I don't know what kind of description you are wanting, can you give a description of finite space? That way I have some reference for the type of description you are looking for. I need to know the basic ideas you want the description to be in terms of.

I imagine space to be one big empty and dark place. Even if we reach the end of the known universe and there are no more stars or galaxies, the emptiness might just go on and on forever. If there's a boundary, that would imply something on the other side.

That isn't the way it is thought to be. Either the stars and galaxies keep going on forever (infinite space) or space itself is curved and finite (no with no boundary).
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
What if the whole Universe is like the Earth and when you go to the end of it you end up on the end of the other side? :confused: Maybe infinity isn't too large after all. :eek:
 

Stevicus

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That isn't the way it is thought to be. Either the stars and galaxies keep going on forever (infinite space) or space itself is curved and finite (no with no boundary).

Does that mean if I head into space and go in the same direction indefinitely, I'll eventually wind back up at Earth? Even "infinite space" is kind of mind-boggling, but at least it's easy to imagine linear movement in the same direction.
 

Polymath257

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Does that mean if I head into space and go in the same direction indefinitely, I'll eventually wind back up at Earth? Even "infinite space" is kind of mind-boggling, but at least it's easy to imagine linear movement in the same direction.

For the simplest models, yes, that is what happens.

Sort of like what happens *on Earth*: if you pick a direction and go on indefinitely, you end up back where you started.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I imagine space to be one big empty and dark place. Even if we reach the end of the known universe and there are no more stars or galaxies, the emptiness might just go on and on forever. If there's a boundary, that would imply something on the other side.
Yep, hence the paradox of the infinite and the finite as it applies to origins. Beginnings and endings.

It's what convinced me that we live in a continuum.
 

rational experiences

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When men's new mind contact controls computer satellite related...about human mind remote viewing program was being used.

As only human men designed machines and knew and understood it's technology. I was given your scientists man review as a woman.

As you caused brain pricking as my chemical mind burning. I was biologically changed.

I saw visions in out of space that your satellites had been studying. Star systems etc.

And saw past our universe just into absolute darker nothingness.

No lights no mass...infinite nothing.

So it's obvious once you saw the same causes of man's sciences of old. As in earth between satellite stars hot and cold moving bodies. Interacting with earth naturally but evilly.

Where the idea of a human built satellite came from. History of a humans living bio life mind Attacked experience.

So thanks for your evil lesson. And if you didn't own a machine you would never believe you are personally a powerful scientist. As you are just a human baby born by human sex.

As you're not actually powerful.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
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My issue, and which has plagued my life, is as to why there is anything in the first place for existence to exist in - regardless of whether any God (or such) is involved or not. :oops:
 

Polymath257

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My issue, and which has plagued my life, is as to why there is anything in the first place for existence to exist in - regardless of whether any God (or such) is involved or not. :oops:


Yes, as I see it, that is the prime mystery: why there is something rather than nothing.

Of course, that assumes that the question 'why' can even apply to existence itself, which I strongly doubt (wouldn't whatever explains existence need to exist first?). Assuming a deity or deities just pushes the issue back one step.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Could you elaborate on what you consider to be the paradox?
The notion that everything must have a beginning or start within a notably timeless beginningless environment.

Suggesting an exception that an eternal fundamental component(s) without beginning or ending must also exist as well.
 

Polymath257

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The notion that everything must have a beginning or start within a notably timeless beginningless environment.

Yes, the timeless, beginningless environment does seem implausible.

Suggesting an exception that an eternal fundamental component(s) without beginning or ending must also exist as well.

And I agree here as well. Why assume some component is eternal and without beginning or end?
 
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