Inherent Morality

[ΩRôghênΩ]

Are Humans Inherently....

 

[ΩRôghênΩ]

Good in my personal oppinion. Human beings are born into innocence therefore are sinless and therefore are good. also jesus said that the kingdom of god was inhereted by the children in their innocence

 

[Buttons*]

Humans just are. The things that you've described cannot possibly determine a human's "true" nature, as the aforementioned terms are all a matter of perspective.

 

[ΩRôghênΩ]

sure, unless you have faith, or belief. i could say god being a pespective but sinse i have the bible i dont believe it.

 

[standing_alone]

Humans are born as humans. Their environment and experiences shape them into what they become.

 

[Atheist_Dave]

I do not believe anybody is born anything, except small and ugly

 

[Mike182]

humans are born inherently open to what ever message first gets them, be that one you would view as good of one you would view as bad.

if people are born inherently good, why do they go wrong?

 

[ΩRôghênΩ]

because over time they are corrupted by the evils in this world.

 

[evearael]

I feel humans are born with the capacity for both good and evil.

 

[Ody]

Humans are born as humans. Their environment and experiences shape them into what they become.

I believe the same thing, Tablua rasa, clean slate, although alot of what drives us is more primal then we would like to believe

 

[Comet]

Human beings are born into innocence therefore are sinless and therefore are good.

(I think some that believe in reincarnation and karma would say otherwise....)

I voted for "other". I am not a Dualist. I don't truly believe in "good" and "evil". Therefore, "neither" and "both" are the same term. I was left with the last.

 

[Buttercup]

It's unescapable to me that humans are capable of both good and bad. Don't like the term evil.

 

[Majikthise]

Humans are born as humans. Their environment and experiences shape them into what they become.

This I believe to be true, and I would add there are also chemical and physical anomalies that might effect brain developement and function.

 

[Sunstone]

Good and evil are a lens through which humans sometimes see the world. Perhaps there is even a born predispostion to see things as good and evil under certain circumstances, such as when we are confronted by a threat to ourselves. But there is little or no evidence that nature itself sorts itself into good and evil. The spider spins its web, the fly becomes trapped in it; and it is sometimes human to take sides, pronouncing one good and the other evil, but does nature itself take sides?

Since I think good and evil are not parts of nature, but meanings imposed on nature by humans, I do not believe that, ultimately, humans are born either good or evil.

Human nature can be viewed by us in terms of those categories, but it might be more accurate to view human traits as a sort of eco-system, in which even the snakes in the grass are interconnected with all the other traits, and have their role to play in the system. The challenge is to figure out the proper role for each trait, and how the system works best. Or, as the Bible puts it (albeit rather roughly), "There is a time for everything, and for everything a season under the sun." Or, something like that.

 

[ChrisP]

Good and evil are a lens through which humans sometimes see the world. Perhaps there is even a bord predispostion to see things as good and evil under certain circumstances, such as when we are confronted by a threat to ourselves. But there is little or no evidence that nature itself sorts itself into good and evil. The spider spins its web, the fly becomes trapped in it; and it is sometimes human to take sides, pronouncing one good and the other evil, but does nature itself take sides?

Since I think good and evil are not parts of nature, but meanings imposed on nature by humans, I do not believe that, ultimately, humans are born either good or evil.

Human nature can be viewed by us in terms of those categories, but it might be more accurate to view human traits as a sort of eco-system, in which even the snakes in the grass are interconnected with all the other traits, and have their role to play in the system. The challenge is to figure out the proper role for each trait, and how the system works best. Or, as the Bible puts it (albeit rather roughly), "There is a time for everything, and for everything a season under the sun." Or, something like that.

What he said (thanks for saving me some typing SunStone)

ticks neither

 

[Ophiuchus]

I voted for neither because I dont think babys are born with good or evil intesion. They are usually either selfish or humble and these two traits pave the way for good or evil later. But overall it is what is taught to the child which determines the outcome.

 

[Cuthberta]

It is to be hoped that each human being is given the innate ability to perceive, consider, and make good choices.

However, each human being must also be within an environment which allows for moral considerations. Humans have spent milleniums devising such an environment, certainly mistakes have been made in this construction and are still being made, but one has that hope, ultimately, that humans have the innate ability to perceive, consider and make good choices.

 

[roli]

Good in my personal oppinion. Human beings are born into innocence therefore are sinless and therefore are good. also jesus said that the kingdom of god was inhereted by the children in their innocence

I see how you could look at a baby and immediately think innocence,just as sure as I look at a nice little old lady who is very sweet and gentle and think how innocent.
Have you ever wondered, why when babies cry they are really saying, I want,I need,give it to me now,or when they are 9mths old and 2 of them are playing together one takes the others toy,the other one freaks out,selfishness,pride.
You might say that's just kids,true,but it is human nature all through the entire life cycle,is it any different when the adults are told by a God of morals that they can't do this ,they can't do that ,they must obey this and they must do this.
Let's not rationalize this to death.
Sin is inherent and passed down through each innocent child right through to the elderly and we will be left to that until we leave this life.
The christian,(true born from above)when He comes to the Lord,God changes His nature,we don't become perfect but all of a sudden ,desires change,attitudes change,behavior actions change,that is called sanctification.
That's why True Christians are part of doing most if not all of the humanitaian aid relief,orphanges,etc are Christian based,are some of them just a fron t of course.
Emotions ,feelings and appearances deceive us ,we look at the outside ,but only God can look upon the heart,as that may be a little to difficult to understand.
Your intitiled to opinion,but when you say sinless what is your standard of sinless.
When you say good ,what is your standard in which to compare.
You may look at Jeffery Dalmer and say as many would ,hey I am not as bad, in comparison , I am pretty good.
To what may I ask is the standard in which so many people compare or measure themself.
God is the standard of perfection,we are measured by that standard ,or conscience if not seared will also attest to that,that's just the way it is,just because we infinite beings don't see what and why he does what He does,we think he is unjust ,"immoral, evil etc.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned

 

[Cuthberta]

Indeed? An interesting belief system. So condemning!

 

[Mike182]

I see how you could look at a baby and immediately think innocence,just as sure as I look at a nice little old lady who is very sweet and gentle and think how innocent.
Have you ever wondered, why when babies cry they are really saying, I want,I need,give it to me now,or when they are 9mths old and 2 of them are playing together one takes the others toy,the other one freaks out,selfishness,pride.
You might say that's just kids,true,but it is human nature all through the entire life cycle,is it any different when the adults are told by a God of morals that they can't do this ,they can't do that ,they must obey this and they must do this.
Let's not rationalize this to death.
Sin is inherent and passed down through each innocent child right through to the elderly and we will be left to that until we leave this life.
The christian,(true born from above)when He comes to the Lord,God changes His nature,we don't become perfect but all of a sudden ,desires change,attitudes change,behavior actions change,that is called sanctification.
That's why True Christians are part of doing most if not all of the humanitaian aid relief,orphanges,etc are Christian based,are some of them just a fron t of course.
Emotions ,feelings and appearances deceive us ,we look at the outside ,but only God can look upon the heart,as that may be a little to difficult to understand.
Your intitiled to opinion,but when you say sinless what is your standard of sinless.
When you say good ,what is your standard in which to compare.
You may look at Jeffery Dalmer and say as many would ,hey I am not as bad, in comparison , I am pretty good.
To what may I ask is the standard in which so many people compare or measure themself.
God is the standard of perfection,we are measured by that standard ,or conscience if not seared will also attest to that,that's just the way it is,just because we infinite beings don't see what and why he does what He does,we think he is unjust ,"immoral, evil etc.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned

yea, but on the bright side, God isn't selfish, i mean, after all, he only wants out complete subservience....