Interesting and an eye opener

[Shadow Wolf]

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I've done that once or twice at the end of a long shift or particularly long week. A lady gave me 35$ for a 30$ order in coinage and it took a second to register with me lol

I haven't done that, but I have messed up on plenty of special order sandwiches just because you're making what seems to be hundreds and thousands of them in one hour, and you've made a billion of them after a few days, and a special order comes up that I notice but don't make it that way anyways because of the muscle memory conditioning of the trillion or so sandwiches that came before that one.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's a

, and I would buy from there again.

I've been to a place just like that, but instead of a Papa Murphy's it was a grocer's freezer.

 

[psychoslice]

Yea it seems that they are useless without a calculator these days.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think their point is not that it makes people stupid but that it makes even intelligent people stupider. So genius becomes smart, smart becomes average and average becomes stupid.

And that would be incorrect. I know some people who smoke and have smoked routinely for many years yet fully retain a high level of intelligence. I know that may fly in the face of what Daren the Lion may have told you as a kid, but it's true.

 

[savagewind]

And that would be incorrect. I know some people who smoke and have smoked routinely for many years yet fully retain a high level of intelligence. I know that may fly in the face of what Daren the Lion may have told you as a kid, but it's true.

I have not studied it. I have heard that a young brain on drugs will not progress as well as a young brain free of drugs. This sounds reasonable.
I know someone who smokes weed every day. That person is one of the most intelligent people I know. But that person buying weed is not smart. A smoking habit (both kinds) costs a LOT of money and in this case I am talking about there is NOTHING saved and much owed. Smoking weed might be bad for the economy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Smoking weed might be bad for the economy.

It's been a godsend in Colorado.

 

[Yerda]

It's been a godsend in Colorado.

Even where it is illegal weed has been really good for economies. It costs a fortune in power which has to come from somewhere, people have to be employed to maintain the crop, building work is required for large scale production, and lots of people have to be bribed to keep it going. A lot of the money makes it into the normal economy.

 

[Yerda]

And that would be incorrect. I know some people who smoke and have smoked routinely for many years yet fully retain a high level of intelligence. I know that may fly in the face of what Daren the Lion may have told you as a kid, but it's true.

One of my best friends smoked a bong from morning til night everyday for years and still managed to teach himself enough to get a masters in theoretical physics.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Even where it is illegal weed has been really good for economies. It costs a fortune in power which has to come from somewhere, people have to be employed to maintain the crop, building work is required for large scale production, and lots of people have to be bribed to keep it going. A lot of the money makes it into the normal economy.

Anthropologically, black markets are still a part of the market, as they involve transactions, goods or other things are exchanged, and those transactions extent outwards to other, and sometimes legal, transactions.
As for economic effects, I've known a bunch of people who deal on the side for gas, cigarettes, and a bit of extra cash, and some who drive convertibles and have enormous TVs.
One unfortunate aspect is that in many cases, although the local deals have effects here, there is a lot money that is being moved backwards and into the hands of gangs and cartels, and the money funds their violence. All just because it's illegal.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Last Saturday I ordered a pizza over the phone. When I went to pick it up a young guy, looking to be about 17, waited on me and told me my order came to $16.61. I dug out the 61 cents and handed it over, and having a wad of bills in my wallet that I wanted to reduce, I gave him a five and a one. Then I gave him a twenty (I didn't have a ten or any more fives). He looked at it a moment and then looked at me rather quizzically, as if needing an explanation. I told him that I had just gave him $26.61 and would like ten dollars back. This didn't register at all. So I told him exactly what I had just done, that the bill was $16.61 and the total amount of money I had given him was $26.61 and that 16.61 from 26.61 was 10. He was still drawing a blank, and after a moment called one of the other workers to come over and take a look at what was happening. She immediately saw the situation and told him to give me $10.00. Almost reluctantly he handed over my $10.00. What was interesting is that here was what I assume to be a high school senior---perhaps a junior---who was intelligent looking enough, but unable to do simple math in his head. I know there are a number of people out there who are in the same boat, but I had never come across one before.

Ever have one of these encounters?

His head would have exploded if you had just given him the 20.

I just don't understand why stores put people like this on the cash register in the first place.

 

[Yerda]

His head would have exploded if you had just given him the 20.

I just don't understand why stores put people like this on the cash register in the first place.

To give the customers a laugh.

 

[columbus]

His head would have exploded if you had just given him the 20.

I just don't understand why stores put people like this on the cash register in the first place.

Because they are cheaper to hire than the competent. Since customers will put up with sort of thing it is more profitable to hire idiots than pay for schooling.

I've never been to such a place that didn't have a computer telling the drug addled employees how to make change. That lack would give me more pause than a math challenged counter person.
Does the manager of the restaurant understand that antibacterial dish washing detergent is also a good investment?
Tom

 

[columbus]

I've been to a place just like that, but instead of a Papa Murphy's it was a grocer's freezer.

I don't claim to be an expert. But I have never had a frozen pizza that compared to PAPA MURPHY'S.

If you go at a quiet time they will make you the most spectacular pizza and hardly charge more than a regular one. I really like artichokes and olives. I tip well.
I get really awesome pizzas.
Tom

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Because they are cheaper to hire than the competent. Since customers will put up with sort of thing it is more profitable to hire idiots than pay for schooling.

Being able to handle simple math is hardly a matter of advanced education or higher salary. I started working at 15 at McDonald's and had no problem handling whatever on-the-fly change situations came up.

 

[columbus]

Being able to handle simple math is hardly a matter of advanced education or higher salary. I started working at 15 at McDonald's and had no problem handling whatever on-the-fly change situations came up.

We're both old dude.
I fired my first boss at 15 and went to McDonald's.
But nobody back in the 70s kept a job paying 2.50/hr if you couldn't even make change.

I still think pot generally makes people stupid. I've seen people who could function on pot. I've seen people who are extremely effective, intellectually, in between highs.
But I have never seen anyone who was consistently high performing while stoned. And I have seen a lot of above average people lose it because they were stupid while stoned and didn't realize it until it was too late.
Tom

 

[Wirey]

The more important question is:

Did you get spinach on that pizza?

 

[dust1n]

Last Saturday I ordered a pizza over the phone. When I went to pick it up a young guy, looking to be about 17, waited on me and told me my order came to $16.61. I dug out the 61 cents and handed it over, and having a wad of bills in my wallet that I wanted to reduce, I gave him a five and a one. Then I gave him a twenty (I didn't have a ten or any more fives). He looked at it a moment and then looked at me rather quizzically, as if needing an explanation. I told him that I had just gave him $26.61 and would like ten dollars back. This didn't register at all. So I told him exactly what I had just done, that the bill was $16.61 and the total amount of money I had given him was $26.61 and that 16.61 from 26.61 was 10. He was still drawing a blank, and after a moment called one of the other workers to come over and take a look at what was happening. She immediately saw the situation and told him to give me $10.00. Almost reluctantly he handed over my $10.00. What was interesting is that here was what I assume to be a high school senior---perhaps a junior---who was intelligent looking enough, but unable to do simple math in his head. I know there are a number of people out there who are in the same boat, but I had never come across one before.

Ever have one of these encounters?

Hmm. A couple of notes.

1.) 17? My first presumption is a relatively new job. And you just might have been the first instance where he encountered that problem. 17 means born in 2008 (omfg, I just realized I'm old) so the number of instances in where people are actually using cash is limited, let alone those fewer instances where some is trying to break change even.

2.) Sounds more like confusion about breaking change than about an immediate math problem. Could be wrong about that, since I obviously wasn't there.

3.) Restaurants, especially pizza kitchens, are drug-addled, except from the probably the actual lower end ones. 5-star restaurant employees actually make enough to afford drugs. People working at McDonald's could hardly pay for enough weed to stay high at work all the time. Reasoning is pretty simple though. The job is strenuous and blows for the most part, and requires late hours and usually having to wear something stupid, and is filled with kids, and generally have bars and socialite things going on.

4.) Some people just aren't that good at doing math in their head. I mean, we can force ourselves to learn, but there are physical limitations not of our choosing.

And also, just throwing it out there, weed tends to make people lazy and unambitious, not stupid. Anti-intellectualism will make anyone stupid, and weed generally affects people differently.

 

[Valjean]

 

[Wirey]

. 17 means born in 2008 (omfg, I just realized I'm old) .

Um, 17 means born in 1998.

 

[Skwim]

Um, 17 means born in 1998.

Ah, the irony.