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Interesting graphic on the evolution of corn

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Ah, we not only have "kinds" to deal with now, but "creatures" as well. :facepalm:

I don't get it. What do you mean by 'kinds' to deal with? I was using the language of the quote I was replying to.

(are you thinking I was making an anti-evolution theory statement? I was just talking about corn (ancient to modern))

Sorry, I'm not Ken Ham.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I don't get it. What do you mean by 'kinds' to deal with? I was using the language of the quote I was replying to.
Sorry, I'm not Ken Ham.
I'm not. ;) One Ken Ham is one too many.

And my apologies for not citing Brickjectivity for this gaff.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Technically we are all one kind if you go by the genetics. We're all DNA cells, and if you change our DNA then you change us.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
It's only showing you can change the attributes of the creature. Same creature though.

No. The DNA has changed, just like it would have been in nature.

Here's a question for you: what is it that controls inheritable traits? Geneticists know this. Do you?

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Answer: Genes.

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The thing is, we do know that genetic code does control most of how we look and what kind of species we can reproduce with. Those genes we do know changes quite often. We all have unique small changes to our DNA.

How it works is that the genetic code is slightly changed from generation to generation. By selection (natural, sexual, artificial, or otherwise) the ones who is allowed to reproduce will produce offspring. If the offspring is strong enough to survive and grow up and reproduce (and having small modifications to the DNA), over time and generations many changes will be the result.


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As an example, here's how you change a horse to a wurst: horse - corse - curse - curst - wurst :)
 
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George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
No. The DNA has changed, just like it would have been in nature.

Here's a question for you: what is it that controls inheritable traits? Geneticists know this. Do you?

---

Answer: Genes.

---

The thing is, we do know that genetic code does control most of how we look and what kind of species we can reproduce with. Those genes we do know changes quite often. We all have unique small changes to our DNA.

How it works is that the genetic code is slightly changed from generation to generation. By selection (natural, sexual, artificial, or otherwise) the ones who is allowed to reproduce will produce offspring. If the offspring is strong enough to survive and grow up and reproduce (and having small modifications to the DNA), over time and generations many changes will be the result.


---edit

As an example, here's how you change a horse to a wurst: horse - corse - curse - curst - wurst :)

Ok, good info that I was basically already aware of.

Like Skwim did, you might be reading my quote out of the context of the quote I was replying to. Certainly the DNA change is what caused the different attributes of the corn. I was aware of that.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Ok, good info that I was basically already aware of.

Like Skwim did, you might be reading my quote out of the context of the quote I was replying to. Certainly the DNA change is what caused the different attributes of the corn. I was aware of that.

Oh. Sorry. :)
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Didn't think "kind" could be bastardized anymore than it was. My mistake.
We are almost certainly losing the readers who probably don't know what is being discussed, but I can bastardize kind even further if it entertains you. I can turn it into an entirely different creature.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
We are almost certainly losing the readers who probably don't know what is being discussed, but I can bastardize kind even further if it entertains you. I can turn it into an entirely different creature.
Premeditated bastardization is hardly equivalent to spontaneous, harebrained bastardization. Don't waste your time.
 
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