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Interview with a Feminist
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Nothing wrong with it. Women can be masculine as well.
The same way if the situation were reversed.
No. It shouldn't be a requirement for a strong depiction of anyone to include assault/battery or killing anyone.
Not too much has changed, in that their stories and narratives are considered more often than women's and mother's.
Actually, I've seen single fathers as being shown more often as heroes than complete morons. The bumbling and stumbling dad figure I think occurs more often in television households where a marriage is still intact and dads are changing diapers (for instance). But when it comes to fathers activities outside the home, and their characters influence on the children, it's still quite the same as in times past.
Plus, how often are television moms seen as bumbling and stumbling when it comes to how they relate with their teenage daughters? Quite a bit, in fact.
I think that's a loaded question. I wouldn't go back to "Father Knows Best" or "Leave it to Beaver" for examples of when positive father figures existed in television, since I think that was when the '50s propaganda was perpetuated to get women out of the factories and back into the kitchen after WWII ended (since men thought they should just get their old jobs back).
Plenty of positive father figures exist in television...even the anti-hero father figures like Dexter Morgan (Dexter) or Walter White (Breaking Bad), in how they are positive influences for their children through much of the series run.
Not every father figure is Ray Romano, in case people were wondering.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
How would you solve the so-called gender gap on wages, given that women as a whole work less than men since they frequently leave work for extended periods to have and raise babies?
Are you aware that women that have the same occupation, length of service, and experience as men are actually earning a bit more than men?
Are you aware that women that have the same occupation, length of service, and experience as men are actually earning a bit more than men?
Akivah
Well-Known Member
Yes, there are shows in which BOTH parents are shown as morons. But when just one parent is shown as being stupid, it is always the father. Can you name a show in which the mom, but not the dad, is a moron?
Talk about loaded...'Leave it to Beaver' showed both parents as being strong. How is showing two strong parents propaganda?
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
LOL! Anyone can say anything! Proving it is a different matter.
The only things they could trump up were both - from his not wanting to admit to an affair with Monica.
They charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice.
Fact of the matter is - what we consensually agree to in our sex lives, - outside people have no right to ask about.
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I think anybody taking maternity or paternity leave ought to have the same employment rights as the Soldiers and Sailors Act that protects our armed forces when being gone for tours of duty for extended periods of time.
And the wage gap isn't "so-called". It's in existence. Look it up on the Department of Labor website.
Source?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What is your response to those who claim this gap only exists because it's actually just the overall average pay of every male compared to every female, and women make less because they choose to take lower paying jobs whereas men take higher paying jobs?
Smart men/boys and ditzy women/girls? LOL where do I start?
Big Bang Theory
I Love Lucy
I Dream of Jeannie
Glee
That '70s Show (remember the parents?)
The "Dumb Blonde" trope is a popular one. Guys don't like being shown on television as stupid any more than gals like being shown on television as stupid.
Leave It to Beaver was part of the '50s propaganda to show women as happy housewives as being the ideal role. People still refer to that time period and those television shows with an idyllic nostalgia that spawned the backlash of "The Feminine Mystique" by Betty Friedan.
And yes, your questions are loaded.
Sure thing. What would you like to ask?
The flip side of the coin, where women who negotiate for higher pay and positions, have been shown in these same studies of the "choice" conundrum that they have been negatively connotated, thought of as ****y or bossy, and that socially they pay a price much larger than men who aggressively negotiate for higher pay.
The answer is complicated, but on one level I suggest folks who believe that women don't have confidence or know how to negotiate higher pay.....to watch how people in every day conversations talk about their experiences with female bosses and male bosses. There are people who discuss in objective terms, but men and women alike will discuss how they'd prefer a male boss to a female boss because they have had in their eyes negative experiences with female employers.
Women who don't negotiate for higher pay or more executive positions are part of the problem, but it isn't as simple to say that it starts and stops there. The problem is systemic and isn't fixable by telling women to just negotiate better and have more confidence.
Those of us(and this very much includes myself) who are excited by both causing pain to women(beyond BDSM and the like) and watching women cause pain to others...is that degrading or hurtful to the movement or just in general? I'd like to suggest you take 'cause pain' as rather extreme in this case, but I'm not going to go into exact detail, if only for everyone elses' sake.
This is a difficult question to ask because I am not sure how to best illustrate it without also making others uncomfortable(well, more uncomfortable).
Ah, this is a fetish of mine. I consider myself an ethical domme. I currently have two male subjects who each approached me with very intense desires to be dominated, led, and kept in line (their wishes). We negotiated a contract, and I began going to work.
I've dabbled here and there with BDSM many times in the past, playing with the two sides of the coin of pain/pleasure. But recently I've upped my game (so to speak), and began opening myself to relationships purely BDSM in nature.
My perspective is that these relationships, which are overtly power-distinct, must be carefully delineated, and the sub MUST always have the last word in what is allowed and what isn't. Consent is not only the most basic requirement, but paramount in the success of the relationship. Subs have communicated to me to be pushed and punished and rewarded and looked after and cared for and humiliated. That can't happen unless it's planned well ahead of time what is allowable and what isn't.
I understand that my perspective is a minority one in feminism - like pro-life feminists legitimately claim a minority view in feminism as a whole - since I support consensual power-distinct relationships, even if the submissive one is the woman in a heterosexual relationship. And that's okay with me.
That was easier than I expect. Danke schoen.
Don't you think that it contradicts with their femininity (masculine is the opposite of feminine after all) and present them differently?
Please note that I'm not talking about choice here, I'm talking about directors giving scenarios to women who maybe don't really go as those scenarios present them. Actors act, not do as what they really are.
Do you think such media give us wrong views of women?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
She's a death metal singer, she has one of the best growls in the genre, and most people are surprised when they discover such a small woman is giving out that powerful of a roar.
Unfortunately though, the media does very frequently give bad portrayals of women.
I see no contradiction.
I find myself, even, from time to time going through phases of when I love love love putting on heels, shimmying into a sleek dress, and slapping on some super red lipstick. Other times, my pair of Doc Martins, cargo pants, and ball caps are much more favored.
I affectionately refer to my time in NYC as my "dyke" phase because I presented myself as masculine nearly all the time for about a year. It didn't stop me from dating men until I only wanted to be with my girlfriend.
So, whether a woman presents herself as feminine, masculine, or ambiguous, I really don't see a problem. Men and non-binary people are included in my perspective too.
Media gives us narrow views of women. Mostly as secondary characters in a male-dominated narrative.
Take the Bible, for example. Authored by males. Male stories of the human experience from the male perspective interacting with a male deity, a male savior, and male apostles. Women are quite secondary in the most published book of literature around the world.
Doesn't make men to be this conspiratorial cabal of power hungry individuals. By numbers and probability, the works - which Hollywood is rife with male domination as well - offer little chance of the Female Gaze into it's works for contrast and comparison with each other.
