If you're going to present what "science" claims to someone like me, and you persist in it as if it's true then yes, you'd have to show what's behind the opinions about dates. If you can't do that, that's the way it is and as I said, I'm not taking your word for it, or science's word unless the "proof" -- ok, opinions -- can be detailed. I mean "they" -- scientists -- figured Pluto was a planet for a long time, right? Then they decided it was not. Meantime I'm not taking it as true that the artifacts outside the city show that people were around there 10,000 BCE or thereabouts. Because...as I explained, I do not go along with the accuracy of their dating. How they did it. Same with Lucy, another stellar way of saying she was a humanoid. No brain much but then I hear she didn't need a brain like homo "sapiens" do. Sorry, but I am not buying it . I used to and you obviously feel free to, I no longer believe the assumptions about her and/or some presumed common ancestor of humans and gorillas and monkeys, etc. Same with Damascus and the artifacts they claim to be dating back according to scientists 10,000 years ago or more. I have explained why and it is entwined with the lack of explanation regarding the precise dating method for those particular things.