Is Adultery & Prostitution sexually immoral?

[Nada]

I have been having a discussion with this person who keeps telling me that Adultery and Prostitution is not sexually immoral.I would like to see what other christians think about this.

Here is what this person told me in a message.

"I presented what the Bible says not what some Christian church says. There is a difference. Your belief may believe that adultery and prostitution are sexual immoral but the Bible does not define, does not place adultery as sexually immoral. The Greek does not define adultery as sexually immoral. You have failed to show that the Bible does define adultery as sexually immoral. Sexually immoral has its own meaning and it is not yours.

I welcome anyone to show me differently what I see the Bible saying. Please show me that the Greek that proves sexually immorality is all the above.

I've found Christian truth goes against Biblical truth."

 

[ChristineES]

Sure, of course it is within our faith. Sexual activity in this faith is supposed to be within a married couple, period.

 

[Nada]

Sure, of course it is within our faith. Sexual activity in this faith is supposed to be within a married couple, period.

Thank you for your reply.I appreciate it.I know it is sexually immoral but for some strange reason this person does not get it.

 

[Ingledsva]

Not a Christian - but - it says -

Lev 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

EDIT - Thought I should add - as I took a longer look at this, and Exo 20:14 " Thou shalt not commit adultery." It actually does NOT seem to be in a moral sense, - but in a property damage sense.

Prostitution on the other hand - is more complicated. A married women, and a Priest's daughter, could be killed for this. The other is the Sacred Prostitute. They could also be killed.

Other then that, I don't think it says anything else about regular old prostitutes. They seem to be accepted. Tamar became one temporarily to get Judah. Different people in the Bible are sleeping with them (Samson for instance.) Rahab the Prostitute helped Joshuah.

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[Thana]

Literally one of the commandments is 'You shall not commit adultery'
I don't know how the bible could get any clearly on the subject.

 

[pearl]

but in a property damage sense.

Isn't that what adultery is, using another's spouse as your own?

 

[ChristineES]

Not a Christian - but - it says -

Lev 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

EDIT - Thought I should add - as I took a longer look at this, and Exo 20:14 " Thou shalt not commit adultery." It actually does NOT seem to be in a moral sense, - but in a property damage sense.

Prostitution on the other hand - is more complicated. A married women, and a Priest's daughter, could be killed for this. The other is the Sacred Prostitute. They could also be killed.

Other then that, I don't think it says anything else about regular old prostitutes. They seem to be accepted. Tamar became one temporarily to get Judah. Different people in the Bible are sleeping with them (Samson for instance.) Rahab the Prostitute helped Joshuah.

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Even people who practice sin "regularly", as in Rahab's case, can do things that are good as well. No one, not even in the Bible, is a 100% sin. I believe the sin is more judged than the sinner; even as Jesus stepped in a saved a woman caught in adultery and ate with "sinners", as well.

 

[Ingledsva]

Isn't that what adultery is, using another's spouse as your own?

Indeed, however the question is about sexual morality, or something else?

It actually appears to be the something else. The wife is owned by the male in these patriarchal cultures. It doesn't appear to be a sexual morality issue.

Even in the prostitution issue it appears to NOT be a moral issue.

Owned women are the ones whom can't be prostitutes. The only exceptions are Priests Daughters - brings shame to the Priesthood, and Sacred Prostitutes - because this is Idolatry. So no sexual immorality connotations, anywhere.

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[Ingledsva]

Even people who practice sin "regularly", as in Rahab's case, can do things that are good as well. No one, not even in the Bible, is a 100% sin. I believe the sin is more judged than the sinner; even as Jesus stepped in a saved a woman caught in adultery and ate with "sinners", as well.

Yes, but what does this have to do with the OP's question?


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[Nada]

Even people who practice sin "regularly", as in Rahab's case, can do things that are good as well. No one, not even in the Bible, is a 100% sin. I believe the sin is more judged than the sinner; even as Jesus stepped in a saved a woman caught in adultery and ate with "sinners", as well.

That story you speak of where Jesus stepped in for the lady who committed adultery, in John 8:11,has actually been omitted from the bible.It does not appear in the earlier Greek manuscripts of the holy scriptures.That is why if you try to look for it in most bibles,it does not appear and gives you a *footnote.

Some will include the story but it will give you the footnote explaining it is not in the earlier manuscripts.Some totally exclude it.Like the NWT.It excludes 7:53-8:11 completely.

John 8 — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwt/E/2013/43/8



[The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53—8:11. A few manuscripts include these verses, wholly or in part, after John 7:36, John 21:25, Luke 21:38 or Luke 24:53.]

53 Then they all went home,

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[The earliest manuscripts do not include 7:53–8:11.]g

The Woman Caught in Adultery

53[[They went each to his own house,

John 7 ESV

 

[columbus]

Isn't that what adultery is, using another's spouse as your own?

Doesn't that depend on who you ask?
Plenty of people think sex is adultery even if neither party was ever married. And some think it is adultery even if the parties are legally married and also had a church wedding if they are a same sex couple.

Tom

 

[Nada]

Doesn't that depend on who you ask?
Plenty of people think sex is adultery even if neither party was ever married. And some think it is adultery even if the parties are legally married and also had a church wedding if they are a same sex couple.

Tom

You have to be married in order for it to be adultery.If not,it is fornication.If a same sex couple got married in a church, and it is legal,it still is not a real marriage in the eyes of the Lord.In the eyes of this country it is, but not by God's standards.So it would not be adultery.It would be homosexuality, which falls under sexual immorality.In the eyes of God of course.If one is a christian, then this applies.

 

[ChristineES]

Yes, but what does this have to do with the OP's question?


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It doesn't. I was speaking about someone you brought up, that's all.

 

[Nada]

It doesn't. I was speaking about someone you brought up, that's all.

Cool.Have a great friday night.I just opened a cold beer.

 

[Ingledsva]

It doesn't. I was speaking about someone you brought up, that's all.

What I brought up was in reply to the OP - dealing with adultery and prostitution.

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[Ingledsva]

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BIBLE STUDENT? You aren't commenting back?

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[ChristineES]

What I brought up was in reply to the OP - dealing with adultery and prostitution.

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Of course, I brought up the same person: She was a prostitute.

 

[Pegg]

[QUOTE="Ingledsva, post: 4033520, member: 33094"
Other then that, I don't think it says anything else about regular old prostitutes. They seem to be accepted. Tamar became one temporarily to get Judah. Different people in the Bible are sleeping with them (Samson for instance.) Rahab the Prostitute helped Joshuah.

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how is sexual immorality being defined?

 

[Pegg]

Some definitions might be helpful to this discussion:

Prostitution: is when a man or woman offers themselves indiscriminately for sexual intercourse for hire; a harlot. The Hebrew word for prostitute is zoh·nah′, while its Greek equivalent is por′ne
Mosaic law says; “Do not profane your daughter by making her a prostitute, in order that the land may not commit prostitution and the land actually be filled with loose morals.” (Le 19:29

Fornication: Illicit sex relations outside of Scriptural marriage. The Hebrew verb za·nah′ and its related forms convey the idea of harlotry, immoral intercourse, fornication, or prostitution.

Adultery: As used in the Bible generally refers to voluntary sexual intercourse by a married person with one of the opposite sex other than one’s mate.

Morality: the principles or rules of right and wrong conduct
Immorality: the violation of moral principles or patterns of conduct usually accepted as right behavior.

 

[melk]

That story you speak of where Jesus stepped in for the lady who committed adultery, in John 8:11,has actually been omitted from the bible.It does not appear in the earlier Greek manuscripts of the holy scriptures.That is why if you try to look for it in most bibles,it does not appear and gives you a *footnote.

Some will include the story but it will give you the footnote explaining it is not in the earlier manuscripts.Some totally exclude it.Like the NWT.It excludes 7:53-8:11 completely.

John 8 — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY



[The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53—8:11. A few manuscripts include these verses, wholly or in part, after John 7:36, John 21:25, Luke 21:38 or Luke 24:53.]

53 Then they all went home,

Bible Gateway
John 7 NIV - Jesus Goes to the Festival of - Bible Gateway




Here goes one in Bible Hub

[The earliest manuscripts do not include 7:53–8:11.]g

The Woman Caught in Adultery

53[[They went each to his own house,

John 7 ESV

So, are all these arguments being used to diminish the importance of the text, relative to others, in the bible? What is that in the text that disturbs you?