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Is all we think an illusion?

Ori

Angel slayer
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
orichalcum said:
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
Yes, to try and find a way from keep our hind ends from returning to the Periodic Table! :)
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
orichalcum said:
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
All this is 'nothing'. It is an illusion. It is the reality we created. WE as a whole, we as humans.
 
Oooooh, that makes my head hurt!!!

but it is not really a problem for me, cause I know there is an afterlife a.k.a heaven (or hell, for some out there).
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
orichalcum said:
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
Ah, but that's assuming that we think there is an afterlife.

I figure, if there is one, it will be mah-velous. If there isn't one? Well, I figure I'm gonna deserve a long rest by then, anyways.
 

Heidi

Member
orichalcum said:
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
I am an athiest and have been for a very long time. I went through a stage where I believed that in losing my faith, I lost all meaning. I was very wrong. I have since discovered an even greater meaning. Being part of some "plan" of an invisible, all-knowing, all-seeing, "God" seems very little to me now. There is something even bigger. The Universe. We are one tiny little planet in one tiny little galaxy. Can you even imagine what's beyond our limited knowledge? It's impossible that we could be the only inhabited planet in the entire universe. The conditions on our planet that support life are relative to the distance we are from our sun, the size of the sun and the size of our planet. there's no possible way there isn't at least one more planet out there that meets the "requirements" to sustain life. We are a product of evolution. So is the entire universe. Who's to say what could have evolved on another planet somewhere else?
 

Ori

Angel slayer
Oh dear me how this thread looks silly now, haha, yes I only posted it recently, one day I will give you the full story, its just too much at the moment.
 
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Majikthise

Guest
Heidi said:
I am an athiest and have been for a very long time. I went through a stage where I believed that in losing my faith, I lost all meaning. I was very wrong. I have since discovered an even greater meaning. Being part of some "plan" of an invisible, all-knowing, all-seeing, "God" seems very little to me now. There is something even bigger. The Universe. We are one tiny little planet in one tiny little galaxy. Can you even imagine what's beyond our limited knowledge? It's impossible that we could be the only inhabited planet in the entire universe. The conditions on our planet that support life are relative to the distance we are from our sun, the size of the sun and the size of our planet. there's no possible way there isn't at least one more planet out there that meets the "requirements" to sustain life. We are a product of evolution. So is the entire universe. Who's to say what could have evolved on another planet somewhere else?
Testify!! How about an introduction in the new members forum?
Welcome!!:D
 
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Majikthise

Guest
orichalcum said:
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
Sex , food and sleep are a good start. And there's always chocolate!!:D
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Majikthise said:
Sex , food and sleep are a good start. And there's always chocolate!!:D
The Surgeon General's Warning... Curses, I can't say that...

The Sturgeon Feather's Warning states that it is dangerous to try all of the above at once.
 

Heidi

Member
Majikthise said:
Testify!! How about an introduction in the new members forum?
Welcome!!:D
Thanks. It's a great site. I've just recently started looking into debates about religion. there are so many different views, but my real purpose is to try to figure out just where religion seems to stand these days. I feel like more and more people are turning to science and away from religion. That's what happened to me. I found out too much, I guess you could say.:rolleyes:
 

Heidi

Member
FeathersinHair said:
The Surgeon General's Warning... Curses, I can't say that...

The Sturgeon Feather's Warning states that it is dangerous to try all of the above at once.
GOOD ONE!!:clap
 
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Majikthise

Guest
FeathersinHair said:
The Surgeon General's Warning... Curses, I can't say that...

The Sturgeon Feather's Warning states that it is dangerous to try all of the above at once.
You must spread Karma around....... Drats!!!!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The Sturgeon Feather's Warning states that it is dangerous to try all of the above at once.
You can fall asleep while eating the chocolate, and dream you are having sex, which then you might choke to death because of the melting chocolate, and then you would find out the answer to the question.

If I am wrong, and there is no afterlife, then the long rest will be an escape to a life that I have almost ended several times.
I am fully convienced in an afterlife though. I know that spirits wonder from that realm and back to this one, and sometimes interfere with the lives of mortals. The dagger I was going to cut my wrist with last time I was going to kill myself came up missing. It was right there earlier, but then it wasn't, and I still havent found it.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
*huge hugs* All I can say is that I thank the spirits for hiding that dagger. We would have lost an incredibly wonderful person.
 

Pussyfoot Mouse

Super Mom
Well if this life is only something I've made up as my own illusion then I wish I could come up with something more exciting. Any ideas? I'll take anything...anything at all! :help:
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
orichalcum said:
The afterlife ( if you believe in such a thing ) only exists in our minds as we cannot prove it, but if it is non existant, we have been living a lie, trying to justify a reason for existing.
So if all is really nothing, would there still be a reason for living?
I think this is the very reason that seperates a lot of the believers from the non-believers. On one hand you have a bunch of people who believe in an afterlife and dedicate their lives doing whatever it is neccessary for them to get there and get a better afterlife. On the other hand, you have the people who think that the afterlife is a made-up concept and instead spend their lives living it however they want to because they see it as a one time opportunity.

There is always a reason for living. Afterlife or no afterlife, our reasons for living all differ from individual to individual.

To find your own reason for living and purpose for existance is apart of the journey of life and is a question that no one man can answer for another.
 
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