time_spender said:
salam and greetings!
Oh ok!! i just said: this is my opinion" and sure i have reasons for it!
popeyesays:
So his name is Siyyid Ali Muhammad!!!!
that means he believes in Mohammad,Ali and aslo his seyyed(from the ahlul bayt family)!
1-he has a islamic name
2-he believes n both prophet and imam
3-he accepts quran---->he accepts that the prophethood finishes with Moahammad(AS)
4-he says that his a prophet!!
the stage 3 and 4 denies eachother!!
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Ye exactly...it has a lord and a finishin messenger!
Now...if your bahaulla is a prophet then why does he deny Mohammad?
Siyyid Ali Muhammed says that Mohammad abdul Allah is not a prophet...it sounds funny!
+ i believe that bahai is a political faith...so its not a faith...a faith is a way that u choose to get near to God...in religions vali is important (vali=a person that shows u the way by the power of lord)
now..tell me.who is ur vali?
I will write more inshAllah
Sorry 4 the english mistakes
Cheers
~mohammad
Its probably useless to tell you that you are badly mistaken on what the claims of Baha`u'llah might be.
Does Baha`u'llah deny Muhammed? Where did you get that idea? Certainly not from anything that Baha`u'llah ever wrote or said. You are looking in the strongly anti-Baha`i websites and cutting and pasting what they tell you, even when they have never really made any study of Baha`u'llah's words.
I will give you three quotes at a time for what Baha`u'llah SAYS about Muhammed and you tell me where those words are a denial of Muhammed as an APostle of God:
"PERUSED ye not the Qur'án? Read it, that haply ye may find the Truth, for this Book is verily the Straight Path. This is the Way of God unto all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth. If ye have been careless of the Qur'án, the Bayan cannot be regarded to be remote from you. Behold it open before your eyes. Read ye its verses, lest perchance ye desist from committing that which will cause the Messengers of God to mourn and lament."
(Baha'u'llah, The Proclamation of Baha'u'llah, p. 97)
"For this reason did Muhammad cry out: "No Prophet of God hath suffered such harm as I have suffered." And in the Qur'án are recorded all the calumnies and reproaches uttered against Him, as well as all the afflictions which He suffered. Refer ye thereunto, that haply ye may be informed of that which hath befallen His Revelation. So grievous was His plight, that for a time all ceased to hold intercourse with Him and His companions. Whoever associated with Him fell a victim to the relentless cruelty of His enemies."
(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 109)
"Then wilt thou comprehend the inner meaning of sovereignty and the like, spoken of in the traditions and scriptures. Furthermore, it is already evident and known unto thee that those things to which the Jews and the Christians have clung, and the cavilings which they heaped upon the Beauty of Muhammad, the same have in this day been upheld by the people of the Qur'án, and been witnessed in their denunciations of the "Point of the Bayan" -- may the souls of all that dwell within the kingdom of divine Revelations be a sacrifice unto Him! Behold their folly: they utter the self-same words, uttered by the Jews of old, and know it not!"
(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 134)
You are stumbling on the single verse of the Qur'an where Muhammed says He is the Seal of the Prophets.
He IS the "Seal of the Prophets". But the Arabic word used in the Qur'an is "khataam", not "khatim". "Khataam" means - the signet ring, the warrantor of the authenticity of a document. Muhammed possessed such a ring for sealing documents, and that seal guaranteed that the document was from the hand of Muhammed.
Muhammed guarantees that Moses was an Apostle of God, and His Book is from God. Muhammed is the "Seal" which guarantees Jesus and the authenticity of the Injeel (Gospel). Muhammed promised the Mahdi. In SHi'ih Islam it is understood that He promises the Qa'im and the Quayyum. He refers to these as "trumpet blasts" in the Qur'an:
Surah 79: Those Who Drag Foth
"In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
By those angels who drag forth souls with violence,
And by those who with joyous release release them;
By those who swim swimmingly along;
By those who are foremost with foremost speed;
By those who conduct the affairs of the universe!
One day, the disturbing trumpet-blast shall disturb it,
Which the second blast shall follow:
Men's hearts on that day shall quake: -
Their looks be downcast.
79:10 The infidels will say, "Shall we indeed be restored as at first?
What! when we have become rotten bones?"
"This then," say they, "will be a return to loss."
Verily, it will be but a single blast,
And lo! they are on the surface of the earth.
Hath the story of Moses reached thee?
When his lord called to him in Towa's holy vale:
Go to Pharaoh, for he hath burst all bounds:
And say: "Wouldest thou become just?
Then I will guide thee to thy Lord that thou mayest fear him."
79:20 And he showed him a great miracle, -
But he treated him as an impostor, and rebelled;
Then turned he his back all hastily,
And gathered an assembly and proclaimed,
And said, "I am your Lord supreme."
So God visited on him the punishment of this life and of the other.
Verily, herein is a lesson for him who hath the fear of God.
Are ye the harder to create, or the heaven which he hath built?
He reared its height and fashioned it,
And gave darkness to its night, and brought out its light,
79:30 And afterwards stretched forth the earth, -
He brought forth from it its waters and its pastures;
And set the mountains firm
For you and your cattle to enjoy.
But when the grand overthrow shall come,
The day when a man shall reflect on the pains that he hath taken,
And Hell shall be in full view of all who are looking on;
Then, as for him who hath transgressed
And hath chosen this present life,
Verily, Hell - that shall be his dwelling-place:
79:40 But as to him who shall have feared the majesty of his Lord, and
shall have refrained his soul form lust,
Verily, Paradise - that shall be his dwelling-place.
They will ask thee of "the Hour," when will be its fixed time?
But what knowledge hast thou of it?
Its period is known only to thy Lord;
And thou art only charged with the warning of those who fear it.
On the day when they shall see it, it shall seem to them as though they
had not tarried in the tomb, longer than its evening or its morn."
The Bab is the first blast upon the trumpet. Baha`u'llah is the second. In that day all the peoples of the earth faced judgement and continue to do so to this day. Those who live in the Lord are those who accept the claim of Baha`u'llah in the end. Those who do not follow, do not live in the Lord. Just as in the day of Muhammed when He burst forth from the heavens and made His claim - men were weeded through to find the living in that day, too.
Regards,
Scott