Is cleavage okay in your book?

[Guitar's Cry]

Desires must be caged,

Caging things leads to raging things.

 

[JustGeorge]

Cleavage is as natural as you are, get over your misogynistic attitude to the female body

If as many reliions think, god created man and woman then god must by default have created female brests and the gap between them.

You might get a laugh at how I learned the definition of cleavage...

My teenaged best friend(male) and I were sitting together watching TV and he asked if I knew what the word meant. I said no(I really didn't). He gave me a sly grin and said "you have nice cleavage". I narrowed my eyes and said "I'm going to go ask your dad what that means". I never seen him look so scared. "No!" He leaped at me, knocked me over, and didn't let me leave the room until his dad was gone(and that was quite awhile). I asked a friend about it the next day at school...

 

[Link]

My goodness, ive never heard such a bucket load of hypocritical rubbish.

The human body is beautiful, if some (particularly men) want to distort beauty and blame that on their god then i feel sad

It's not about beauty, it's about controlling lust in humans, which break families, causes divorces and even today's time (and in the past) leads to human trafficking including that of children.

 

[Rival]

I don't show any and don't think it's tasteful or particularly religious, when it's clearly become a sexual display.

 

[Link]

Caging things leads to raging things.

Better rage at injustice then live a life of pleasure embracing it and not opposing the oppressors. You are right though, it get's people to do something else, then live a life obsessed over animal pleasures while the evil people oppress and have their way.

 

[We Never Know]

Do you think God is offended when women expose their cleavage in public?

When I was a paper delivery guy there was a women sitting down and I was standing up while I handed her the paper and she noticed me looking down at her cleavage.

She gave me such a charming smile and had such a pretty face to go along with the cleavage.

It made my day actually. She looked humble and kind , as well as not offended where my gaze was temporarily. That happened two years ago roughly and I'll never forget it. It was her smile mainly , but her cleavage seemed to smile back , and the sun was shining and birds were singing so well that day. And so was I.

If I'm good in this life, maybe I'll have a woman with a beautiful soul in heaven some day. I've been with women, but they are usually not well. Nice cleavage is great, but wisdom, humility, and charity come first.

Best to store up treasures in the next life where beauty is not deceptive or fleeting, but eternal.

I confess that when I'm conversing with a woman , to have a habit of eye-balling her cleavage without meaning to. I still haven't grown up and have some boyish tendencies.

I'm not a virgin, and am supposed to be a grown up, but little things like cleavage still charm me the same as when I was a school boy.

Cleavage can speak a sermon about God and is okay in my book.

Is public cleavage okay in your book?

As a species we use to run around naked as it was part of our life. Cleavage is covered up compared to running naked in the past.

Cleavage is good. Its sexy(most times) and lets the imagination work.

 

[ChristineM]

It's not about beauty, it's about controlling lust in humans, which break families, causes divorces and even today's time (and in the past) leads to human trafficking including that of children.

If men cannot control their lust is no fault of women.

If a mans lust causes th break up of a family then perhaps he needs counciling in the hope of him learning self control and maybe saving his marriage.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Better rage at injustice then live a life of pleasure embracing it and not opposing the oppressors. You are right though, it get's people to do something else, then live a life obsessed over animal pleasures while the evil people oppress and have their way.

Better to rage at injustice because injustice has its own emotional involvement than to restrain natural desires because of religious dogma.

But you do you.

I will follow Pan and be the animal/beast/god (the Jungian whole self) I was born to be.

 

[Rival]

@Link looks like we're on our own.

 

[Nakosis]

I don't judge people for their cleavage. Why? Because I hope they don't judge me for mine.

The powers that be decided to be funny when I was put together, and made me humorously top heavy. There are things other women can wear that would look conservative, but on me looks showy. My options were to wear nothing but turtlenecks, or get over it and have a sense of humor about it. I chose the second option.

If someone is showing some cleavage, I don't assume that its because they're looking for attention, or that is says anything about their morals. I assume its because its how their shirt fit, and they like their shirt.

As to what God thinks, its going to depend on the God.

My sister in law has the same problem. She told me that shirts which cover her up makes her feel suffocated.
So she is not trying to show off, she just wants to feel comfortable.

I suppose God only wants men folk to feel comfortable with their clothing.

 

[We Never Know]

I don't show any and don't think it's tasteful or particularly religious, when it's clearly become a sexual display.

In many cases it is sexy but in my opinion many times it isn't done as a sexual display.
Its done for comfort and sometimes fashion.
I sometimes wonder about how some people think its ok for a man to go shirtless but wrong for a female to show cleavage.

 

[JustGeorge]

My sister in law has the same problem. She told me that shirts which cover her up makes her feel suffocated.
So she is not trying to show off, she just wants to feel comfortable.

I suppose God only wants men folk to feel comfortable with their clothing.

The hang ups people have can be so annoying... When someone is clearly not trying to be sexual, it serves no one to sexualize them. I remember the embarrassment of having to go out and buy a piece of fabric to pin into my shirts because work complained, and I literally had no clothing that didn't show at least a minor amount of cleavage.

 

[Rival]

Its done for comfort and sometimes fashion.

I can be comfortable without showing any and fashion is moot.

I sometimes wonder about how some people think its ok for a man to go shirtless but wrong for a female to show cleavage.

Because women don't tend to objectify men in the same way. Our brains jsut don't work the same way. Sure, it's up to men to control themselves, but that doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't help. Sexual displays are for the bedroom.

 

[JustGeorge]

Because women don't tend to objectify men in the same way. Our brains jsut don't work the same way.

We don't?

I don't look much now that I'm married, but I remember staring pretty heavily should I find an attractive topless male previous to that...

But I guess its no secret that I'm weird.

 

[Nakosis]

So, instead of God telling man to respect women, to see them as more than an object for carnal desire. God told women to hide themselves from the world.

Can't have the men folk lusting after women all of the time for God is a jealous God.
Well I better stop before I get myself in trouble again.

 

[Rival]

We don't?

I don't look much now that I'm married, but I remember staring pretty heavily should I find an attractive topless male previous to that...

But I guess its no secret that I'm weird.

Generally no, we're not lol.

 

[We Never Know]

I can be comfortable without showing any and fashion is moot.


Because women don't tend to objectify men in the same way. Our brains jsut don't work the same way. Sure, it's up to men to control themselves, but that doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't help. Sexual displays are for the bedroom.

I'm just guessing here but I think this shirtless guy is as sexy or sexier to a woman than cleavage is to a man.
What do you stay ladies?

 

[Brinne]

I generally prefer when people of any gender are more modest in fashion. I think socially we have issues with objectification (especially the “marketing” of desire through capitalism) that tend to inform or influence decisions — which go beyond our fashion choices.

That being said I’m not going to yell at anyone I see in the street for wearing what they like — or support any attempt at government backed modesty laws.

 

[Rival]

I'm just guessing here but I think this shirtless guy is as sexy or sexier to a woman than cleavage is to a man.
What do you stay ladies?

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Not doing anything for me, but then I prefer chubby men

IOW, it's not making me throb like having a sexual fantasy does. I can make that happen in seconds.

 

[JustGeorge]

I'm just guessing here but I think this shirtless guy is as sexy or sexier to a woman than cleavage is to a man.
What do you stay ladies?

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I don't find him attractive at all. I like my men rail thin and kinda wimpy looking, with long hair.