Is creator of this world cruel ?

[chinu]

You asked the question, i simply replied to the best of my knowledge.

Oh! so cute of yours my dear sister

 

[ChristineM]

Oh! so cute of yours my dear sister

Eh?

And... I have no siblings though we are sll related to Mitochondrial Eve so at best, distant relative.

 

[chinu]

Eh?

And... I have no siblings though we are sll related to Mitochondrial Eve so at best, distant relative.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Resolves the understanding of the blamer.

How so?

 

[chinu]

How so?

Like it resolved mine when I was a blamer.

 

[Tomef]

Do you care to rephrase ?

Indifference seems a more likely candidate that cruelty.

There’s a Colombian philosopher I like who you may have heard of, Nicolas Gomez Davila, known mainly for his aphorisms rather than any longer writing, one of these is ‘violence is the arbiter of reality’.

I think he hit the nail on the head there - the universe is a violent place, on all kinds of levels. Is it cruel though? Cruelty implies intention, and the kind of arbitrary cruelty the universe offers up only meets that description sometimes (i.e. when people are doing it). Chronic illnesses and diseases that cause a lot of pain and misery are cruel, but are they intentionally inflicted by some god being? If there were a god, and that god was motivated by cruelty, why would he/she be so random about it? Why be nice to some people and awful to others? It would be hard to argue that he/she is some kind of random nutcase, as the world doesn’t seem quite that disordered. So if there is a god, indifference to human suffering seems more likely than cruelty.

 

[Link]

This world is a error handling world. It's not meant to be, and especially the way it is, is not meant to be.

 

[danieldemol]

No questioner, No responder in the beginning.

Without a questioner and a responder there was no conversation and thus the alleged creator never said anything in my view.

 

[Spice]

Gravity is not cruel, it has no mind to be cruel with, but it is relentless.

God, not something i believe in however, if such a thing exists and as claimed, it is omni everything, then reading the holy books* indicates that not only is it cruel but also a sadistic genocidal maniac.

* i am assiming the Abrahamic god

Agreed -- the laws of nature are not cruel, but we may view them, or their consequences, as cruel. "God" as the Creator did indeed create these laws, so the blame is reflected onto the maker, just like a child will blame a parent for losing their screen-time privileges if they violate the parents "law" of homework first. It's not the child's fault, it's the fault of that stupid rule by those unfair, uncaring parents! LOL

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Some people doubt that the creator of this world is cruel because the world around is no more than a bunch of chaos and sufferings.
Yes, their doubt is correct and they have the right to blame, but, just for SOME TIME.

Because, further the wisdom of the creator says -- that before this world was created all souls were in oneness with creator. "Souls were God were Souls"
Therefore, who is cruel ? Souls thyself took this cruel decision for thyself.

Can you still blame the creator ?

So if God is the source of the soul of man, then a religious person should do their best to do the will of God, but man has free will to refuse to acknowledge there is a divine source to their existence.

 

[chinu]

but man has free will to refuse to acknowledge there is a divine source to their existence.

Passing through experiences of life ones thinking change from refuse to acceptence.
Slowely by the time -- one day or another -- either in this birth -- or in any upcoming rebirth, ones refuse will change into acceptence.
When this refuse change into acceptence passing through experiences of life, it is = free will.

 

[chinu]

Without a questioner and a responder there was no conversation and thus the alleged creator never said anything in my view.

Yes, there was NO converstation in the beginning.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Passing through experiences of life ones thinking change from refuse to acceptence.
Slowely by the time -- one day or another -- either in this birth -- or in any upcoming rebirth, ones refuse will change into acceptence.
When this refuse change into acceptence passing through experiences of life, it is = free will.

Yes, experience = learning.

 

[libre]

Can you still blame the creator ?

Man is responsible for all that he does.
I don't see why god would be any different.

 

[chinu]

Man is responsible for all that he does.
I don't see why god would be any different.

Question is not about the responsibility.
Question is about blaming.

For example: two friends did some illegal work.
Of course, general public can blame both of them because they both/together are equally responsible for that illegal work. But, they cannot blame each other.

OP also asks -- Who will blame ? there's no third-party/general public in OP's scenario.