Is deism a type of theism?

[Desert Snake]

Noticed that deists tend to have what are considered "theistic"ideas

The concepts are the same, yet the wording is different.

Thoughts?

 

[Desert Snake]

Note deity belief does not require "personal "deity idea.

Included in some definitions of theism , it might be problematic.

 

[Liu]

Yes. Deism can have either a personal or an impersonal deity, as I understand it. Same as other kinds of theism.

If theism would mean that the idea of deity has to be that of a personal deity, many forms of pantheism would be misnamed.

 

[leibowde84]

Noticed that deists tend to have what are considered "theistic"ideas

The concepts are the same, yet the wording is different.

Thoughts?

Deism is a subcategory of Theism.

 

[DavidFirth]

I'll go with

WHO CARES?

because I don't care. Next.

 

[Desert Snake]

I'll go with

WHO CARES?

because I don't care. Next.

And yet you wrote this drivel in the thread.

 

[DavidFirth]

And yet you wrote this drivel in the thread.

It was my way of saying that the whole thread is drivel. Next.

 

[PureX]

I think it's foolish to allow such labels to define us. My concept of "God" fluctuates constantly, depending on how I feel at the moment. And I see no problem with this as I have no way of grasping the reality of "God", regardless. I understand that my conceptualizations are just my human conceptualizations (and so are everyone else's). So I can choose whatever concept works best under the circumstances.

 

[leibowde84]

I'll go with

WHO CARES?

because I don't care. Next.

Way to be respectful. Sad.

 

[columbus]

Noticed that deists tend to have what are considered "theistic"ideas

The concepts are the same, yet the wording is different.

Thoughts?

To me deism is not a type of theism. It's more a nontheist thing. But I do often hear deists say that they believe things that sound theistic to me. So, to me, the answer is no. But to other people who identify as deist the answer might be yes, or maybe.

It seems to me that the Universe, Creation if you will, does exist. Whatever the reason for that I call god. The difference between me and theists is that I don't think that I know anything important about the reason, God. I don't know whether god cares about anything, much less what it is. I think science is the best way to learn about god.
But I also have other ideas that I like and "believe", I just don't think I know and remain confident that I am wrong about them. Just like everyone else is. The difference between me and a theist is that I know humans well enough to be skeptical of beliefs that aren't based on anything more credible than what theist's beliefs are.
Tom

 

[LuisDantas]

The concept of deity is inherently too arbitrary for an objective answer to the OP's question to be possible.

 

[Liu]

To me deism is not a type of theism. It's more a nontheist thing. But I do often hear deists say that they believe things that sound theistic to me. So, to me, the answer is no. But to other people who identify as deist the answer might be yes, or maybe.

It seems to me that the Universe, Creation if you will, does exist. Whatever the reason for that I call god. The difference between me and theists is that I don't think that I know anything important about the reason, God. I don't know whether god cares about anything, much less what it is. I think science is the best way to learn about god.
But I also have other ideas that I like and "believe", I just don't think I know and remain confident that I am wrong about them. Just like everyone else is. The difference between me and a theist is that I know humans well enough to be skeptical of beliefs that aren't based on anything more credible than what theist's beliefs are.
Tom

I consider myself a (pan)theist and I'm nearly as agnostic as you when it comes to the details. So I would count also your version a form of theism.
Not all religions/theists have a fixed set of beliefs to adhere to.

 

[columbus]

The concept of deity is inherently too arbitrary for an objective answer to the OP's question to be possible.

I don't think theism, at it's essence, is necessarily about deity. It's the beliefs that one holds to be objectively true, about the supernatural, because one prefers to live in a world where the beliefs are true. The beliefs are held out of preference, rather than preponderance of evidence.

So Buddhism is theistic, despite the lack of a God image. Deism is not, despite having one. Because Buddhism teaches about the afterlife, reincarnation, which is a belief about the supernatural. Deism doesn't have any supernaturalism.
At least, I don't. Maybe I am not a deist. It wouldn't bother me if I failed (again) to fit some label or another.
Tom

 

[Twilight Hue]

Noticed that deists tend to have what are considered "theistic"ideas

The concepts are the same, yet the wording is different.

Thoughts?

I think it's theism.

Deism if I'm correct, is a God that created something and then left the building.

 

[columbus]

I think it's theism.

Deism if I'm correct, is a God that created something and then left the building.

Others may disagree, but that isn't what I mean by it.
What I mean is "The reason that there is something, rather than nothing, is God. But nobody knows anything important about the reason. And there is no reason to believe that God cares about anything. Or even exists in any meaningful way. Religious people claiming things about God the Creator are making up fiction."
Tom

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't think theism, at it's essence, is necessarily about deity. It's the beliefs that one holds to be objectively true, about the supernatural, because one prefers to live in a world where the beliefs are true. The beliefs are held out of preference, rather than preponderance of evidence.

I am not sure that I follow. It appears that you may be confusing theism with supernaturalism.

So Buddhism is theistic, despite the lack of a God image.

Excuse me?!?

Deism is not, despite having one. Because Buddhism teaches about the afterlife, reincarnation, which is a belief about the supernatural.

Actually, Buddhism denies both supernaturalism and reincarnation. At least in its mainstream forms.

Deism doesn't have any supernaturalism.
At least, I don't. Maybe I am not a deist. It wouldn't bother me if I failed (again) to fit some label or another.
Tom