Is Fundamentalism a Religious Movement or a Psychological Disorder?

[Revoltingest]

Which is something else we should expect to see of someone with schizophrenia, not healthy adults.

Now, now....we should show more tolerance towards our religious friends.
Yes, they believe in magical things. Otherwise healthy adults do that,
eg, adults to see socialism, & think, "Wow, we should get that! here".

 

[Spartan]

Which is belief in a myth of your own creation. Truly, how many liberals do you know who condone such violence and rape? What liberal do you know who would offer their own daughters for gang raping?

I know a lot of liberals kill their innocent unborn daughters before they have a chance to grow up and be raped.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know a lot of liberals kill their innocent unborn daughters before they have a chance to grow up and be raped.

Really? I don't know of any. I am betting that you are rather confused.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I know a lot of liberals kill their innocent unborn daughters before they have a chance to grow up and be raped.

That isn't what I'm talking about, and if you want to dodge this question (another hallmark feature of fundamentalist found also in authoritarians) we can go that route, and, behold, Christians have more abortions than any other group out there. It doesn't seem religious beliefs are that good of a predictor of if a woman will get an abortion or not.
And here's another thing about Fundamentalists, your god is not opposed to abortion. Ripping the unborn from the womb is something he commanded throughout the OT. Pregnancy from adultery? The sentence was a to drink the bitter water and terminate the pregnancy. That sort of blind faith is why the OP was able to link to a paper discussing similarities between Fundamentalists and Right Wing Authoritarians. Your god is not pro-life, yet you condemn anyone who is pro-choice.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Now, now....we should show more tolerance towards our religious friends.
Yes, they believe in magical things. Otherwise healthy adults do that,
eg, adults to see socialism, & think, "Wow, we should get that! here".

We're not discussing religion in general, but specifically fundamentalists. They are not just socialists in the general term, they are more specifically National Socialists. Another example of when dogma and rigid beliefs cause what appear in any other circumstances to be symptoms of mental illness.

 

[Spartan]

That isn't what I'm talking about, and if you want to dodge this question (another hallmark feature of fundamentalist found also in authoritarians) we can go that route, and, behold, Christians have more abortions than any other group out there.

That's just more of your usual nonsense. Abortion is a liberal behavior, no matter who does it. It's not Christian and it's not a conservative hallmark. And the length to which the loony left goes to make sure that the slaughter of the innocents continues unabated continues to amaze anyone keeping score.

And here's another thing about Fundamentalists, your god is not opposed to abortion. Ripping the unborn from the womb is something he commanded throughout the OT. Pregnancy from adultery? The sentence was a to drink the bitter water and terminate the pregnancy. That sort of blind faith is why the OP was able to link to a paper discussing similarities between Fundamentalists and Right Wing Authoritarians. Your god is not pro-life, yet you condemn anyone who is pro-choice.

Wrong again. Response in the article below.

What God’s Word Says About Abortion | Living Waters

And a question for you: What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)?

 

[Spartan]

Really? I don't know of any. I am betting that you are rather confused.

What? No "daughters" of liberals are aborted? All the abortions are of male babies? Wake up.

 

[Spartan]

Now, now....we should show more tolerance towards our religious friends.
Yes, they believe in magical things.

Here's the magic you guys have to believe in, if you'd care to read about it:

 

[Subduction Zone]

What? No "daughters" of liberals are aborted? All the abortions are of male babies? Wake up.

Like I said, you are terribly confused. Embryos are not babies. Fetuses are not babies. When a person cannot debate properly it indicates that he cannot support his claims.

And I looked at your article. The writer makes the typical anti-abortion mistakes while ignoring the verses in the Bible that tell us abortion is not murder, at least according to the Bible.

Edit:

You also need to find a more reliable source. Ray Comfort has shown himself to be a lying hack time after time, at least in his vain fight against evolution. Living Waters is a tainted source due to Ray.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's just more of your usual nonsense. Abortion is a liberal behavior, no matter who does it. It's not Christian and it's not a conservative hallmark. And the length to which the loony left goes to make sure that the slaughter of the innocents continues unabated continues to amaze anyone keeping score.



Wrong again. Response in the article below.

What God’s Word Says About Abortion | Living Waters

And a question for you: What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)?

Do you deny my claims of what is the Bible? I'll cite them, if need be, and I have no problems bringing out the behaviors spoke of in the OP and referenced material. It's a"live demonstration."

 

[Revoltingest]

Here's the magic you guys have to believe in, if you'd care to read about it:

Atheism is too simple (ie, lack of belief in gods) to require a whole book to describe it..
As you saw, I fit all one needs to know about it in a single sentence.

 

[Spartan]

Do you deny my claims of what is the Bible? I'll cite them, if need be, and I have no problems bringing out the behaviors spoke of in the OP and referenced material. It's a"live demonstration."

Way to duck the question. Try again?

What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God in some way is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)?

You have no idea who that is in a mother's womb. For instance,

Prophets and Biblical personalities ordained from their mother’s wombs:

Samson: Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, “A man of God came to me and his appearance was like the appearance of the angel of God, very awesome. And I did not ask him where he came from, nor did he tell me his name. “But he said to me, `Behold, you shall conceive and give birth to a son, and now you shall not drink wine or strong drink nor eat any unclean thing, for the boy shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.'” (Judges 13:6-7, see also Judges 16:17)

John the Baptist: “For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and he will drink no wine or liquor; and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, while yet in his mother’s womb.” (Luke 1:15)

Jesus, the Son of God: Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” – Luke chapter 1

The Apostle Paul: “But when He who had set me apart, even from my mother’s womb, and called me through His grace, was pleased…” (Galatians 1:15)

All of those individuals had important, Godly missions ordained for them from their mother's womb.

So, once again, the question: What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God in some way is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)? You really don't have a clue, do you?

 

[Spartan]

Like I said, you are terribly confused. Embryos are not babies. Fetuses are not babies. When a person cannot debate properly it indicates that he cannot support his claims.

And I looked at your article. The writer makes the typical anti-abortion mistakes while ignoring the verses in the Bible that tell us abortion is not murder, at least according to the Bible.

Edit:

You also need to find a more reliable source. Ray Comfort has shown himself to be a lying hack time after time, at least in his vain fight against evolution. Living Waters is a tainted source due to Ray.

Nope. You're mistaken. Love it when the pro-abortion crowd tries that line that it's not really a baby in the womb. But then when they're pregnant and want to have a baby they say, "Look! I'm pregnant and having a baby!" LOL.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nope. You're mistaken. Love it when the pro-abortion crowd tries that line that it's not really a baby in the womb. But then when they're pregnant and want to have a baby they say, "Look! I'm pregnant and having a baby!" LOL.

Sorry, but you do not get to make such blanket claims without one whit of evidence. All you had were Bible verses taken out of context while you ignore the even clearer verses that tell us this is not what was thought at that time.

Emotional arguments are losing arguments.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Way to duck the question. Try again?

What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God in some way is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)?

You have no idea who that is in a mother's womb. For instance,

Prophets and Biblical personalities ordained from their mother’s wombs:

Samson: Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, “A man of God came to me and his appearance was like the appearance of the angel of God, very awesome. And I did not ask him where he came from, nor did he tell me his name. “But he said to me, `Behold, you shall conceive and give birth to a son, and now you shall not drink wine or strong drink nor eat any unclean thing, for the boy shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.'” (Judges 13:6-7, see also Judges 16:17)

John the Baptist: “For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and he will drink no wine or liquor; and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, while yet in his mother’s womb.” (Luke 1:15)

Jesus, the Son of God: Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” – Luke chapter 1

The Apostle Paul: “But when He who had set me apart, even from my mother’s womb, and called me through His grace, was pleased…” (Galatians 1:15)

All of those individuals had important, Godly missions ordained for them from their mother's womb.

So, once again, the question: What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God in some way is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)? You really don't have a clue, do you?

Back to quoting verses that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

How about when priests in the Old Testament would perform abortions clearly with God's help?

 

[Spartan]

Back to quoting verses that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

How about when priests in the Old Testament would perform abortions clearly with God's help?

How about "Thou shalt not shed innocent blood"?

 

[Spartan]

Sorry, but you do not get to make such blanket claims without one whit of evidence. All you had were Bible verses taken out of context while you ignore the even clearer verses that tell us this is not what was thought at that time.

Emotional arguments are losing arguments.

Tsk tsk God creates life in a mother's womb. Think about that for a day or two.

 

[Subduction Zone]

How about "Thou shalt not shed innocent blood"?

Applies to people. Not embryos, in which case no "blood" may even be shed. Nor to fetuses. In Biblical times a baby was not a baby until it took the "breath of life" or even later. In fact there is a verse that is a little bit infamous since the anti-abortion people managed to get it changed in some Bibles:

Exodus 21:22 If men who are fighting strike a pregnant woman and her child is born prematurely, but there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband demands and as the court allows.

The King James Version is for once perhaps the preferred version:

"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."

Fruit depart from her is slang for, in your terms "lost the baby"..

 

[Subduction Zone]

Tsk tsk God creates life in a mother's womb. Think about that for a day or two.

Oh man. Seriously take a sex ed class.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Way to duck the question. Try again?

Hosea 9:14 - Miscariagges and dry breasts
Hosea 13:16 - little ones dashed to the ground, pregnant women ripped open
Numbers 5:11-21 - The "bitter water" that aborts a pregnancy.
Need me to go on?