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Is Fundamentalism a Religious Movement or a Psychological Disorder?

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Women become pregnant by having sex with a human guy, or IVF, nothing to do with any god, which is more than likely to be a mythical creature. Woman should have the absolute right to abort the foetus before it is viable.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Nope. You're mistaken. Love it when the pro-abortion crowd tries that line that it's not really a baby in the womb. But then when they're pregnant and want to have a baby they say, "Look! I'm pregnant and having a baby!" LOL.
There is no contradiction at all in being happy for having a child while also acknowledging that it is a serious responsibility and not to be taken lightly.

If you come to understand and accept that, you will have a far easier time communication with people who disagree with you on this matter.
 
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BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
But you're an atheist ─ you deny that the gods of the Egyptians, the Mesopotamians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Celts, the Hindus, the indigenous of Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia and so on exist at all. And if you don't do so 'rabidly', you nonetheless do so.
Come now ─ what are the debate boards for?

And why would you not welcome the chance to reason with the unbelievers?

I'm not an atheist, I'm a theist.

And I welcome the chance to reason with unbelievers, distinct from assault by trolls.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm not an atheist, I'm a theist.

And I welcome the chance to reason with unbelievers, distinct from assault by trolls.
So you think Enki and Thoth and Aphrodite and Ahura Mazda and Frigga and Bel and Shiva and the Great Spirit and the Rainbow Serpent and Vucub Caquix and the rest are real too? Your liberality and consistency of thought do you credit.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
There is no contradiction at all in being happy for having a children while also acknowledging that it is a serious responsibility and not to be taken lightly.

If you come to understand and accept that, you will have a far easier time communication with people who disagree with you on this matter.

Oh, let him be wonderful.
If it requires stereotyping people one
does not know, and inventing some way
that they are-gasp-hypocritical!!!!
well,all the more wonderful.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
What divine insight do you people who approve of abortion have to where you think it's ok to destroy in a mother's womb that which God in some way is instrumental in creating (Psalam 139:13, Jeremiah 1:5, etc.)?

Simple, because that has not been created, nor implanted by any God, on account of His lack of existence. It is difficult to do anything when you do not exist.

And honestly, what is the problem? Especially when abortion is done very early. I am sure you would not be able to distinguish a few duplicating human cells from the ones of an amoeba.

And what is Psalam 139:13? Sounds Muslim.

Ciao

- viole
 
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Spartan

Well-Known Member
There is no contradiction at all in being happy for having a children while also acknowledging that it is a serious responsibility and not to be taken lightly.

If you come to understand and accept that, you will have a far easier time communication with people who disagree with you on this matter.

I seldom have an easy time conversing with people who think it's ok to slaughter the innocent unborn. It's an unconscionable and barbaric act.
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
Simple, because that has not been created, nor implanted by any God, on account of His lack of existence.

And honestly, what is the problem? Especially when abortion is done very early. I am sure you would not be able to distinguish a few humans duplicating human cells from the ones of an amoeba.

Ciao

- viole

We're talking the Bible here, viole, and in the Bible it's crystal clear that in some way God creates life in a mother's womb. Scriptures show that there's also a good number of individuals that God has ordained - in the mother's womb or before - for a specific calling in life. And unless you and the pro-infanticide crowd have some kind of divine insight to know who that is in the womb and what God's plan is for that baby, then DON'T KILL IT. Plain and simple.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
We're talking the Bible here, viole, and in the Bible it's crystal clear that in some way God creates life in a mother's womb. Scriptures show that there's also a good number of individuals that God has ordained - in the mother's womb or before - for a specific calling in life. And unless you and the pro-infanticide crowd have some kind of divine insight to know who that is in the womb and what God's plan is for that baby, then DON'T KILL IT. Plain and simple.

I am an atheist. Why should I care for what a not existing being might think?

Ciao

- viole
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
We're talking the Bible here, viole, and in the Bible it's crystal clear that in some way God creates life in a mother's womb. Scriptures show that there's also a good number of individuals that God has ordained - in the mother's womb or before - for a specific calling in life. And unless you and the pro-infanticide crowd have some kind of divine insight to know who that is in the womb and what God's plan is for that baby, then DON'T KILL IT. Plain and simple.

There is not one shred of evidence a god influenced the construction of the documents making up that book. Much of it is so crazy it is more than likely it is a purely human creation produced by overactive imaginations.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I seldom have an easy time conversing with people who think it's ok to slaughter the innocent unborn. It's an unconscionable and barbaric act.
From what I see, you do not seem to have a lot of honest good will to make any attempts either, so you should probably dwell on that fact before expecting anything further to happen.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
There is not one shred of evidence a god influenced the construction of the documents making up that book. Much of it is so crazy it is more than likely it is a purely human creation produced by overactive imaginations.

Crazy, and / or demonstrably false..

The "crystal clear" part is made obvious by the
tens of thousands of sects each with their own reading.

I wonder if there is even one line in ye "Bible" that
is not in dispute as to just what it means.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I am of the opinion that people who seem to get off on the fantasy of others burning in hell if they don't convert to their version of religion, are in need of psychiatric attention.

They often have had negative early experiences with authority/parent figures, so they gravitate toward an angry deity that smites their perceived enemies.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Fundamental beliefs. Jesus had fundamental religious beliefs. There was nothing evil, dysfunctional or psychologically aberrant about them.

Thomas Jefferson, one of the great minds of American thought, called the teachings of Jesus, "the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man."

On the other hand, there's liberal fundamentalism. Fundamental liberal beliefs - straight from Hell and the devil himself. Liberals are now advancing the perverse, the profane, the unnatural, the slaughter of the innocents, open borders, pornography, confiscating firearms from lawful citizens; disrespect for law enforcement, legalization of illicit drugs, reverse racism, social divisions, the abolition of traditional American values and beliefs, antisemitism, godlessness, anti-constitutionalism, socialism, forced redistribution of wealth, a weakened national defense, massive government growth, raising taxes, non-functional single payer healthcare by the government, sanctuary cities for criminals, a massive, plantation-style, government welfare system, regressive progressivism, attacks on religious free speech and Christianity, vitriolic intolerance of conservative beliefs, dogmatism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism, to name a few.

"The violent and decadent society that the liberals so despise is the very one they have created. They wanted sexual promiscuity, drugs, disregard for the law, no censorship of pornography, no laws against sodomy or public profanity, abortion on demand, quick and easy divorces, acceptance of homosexuality, Miranda rights, a welfare system that paid women to have illegitimate children, a tax system that penalizes marriage, and a godless education system. And they got it. Every last bit of it." - Charley Reese, former Orlando Sentinel Opinion Columnist

In her book "Godless - the Church of Liberalism," Ann Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

So,

Beware of Liberal Fundamentalism

Liberal Fundamentalism


Excerpt: "It is certainly arguable, then, that “progressive” liberal fundamentalism substantially undermines the basic effectiveness of the government and other societal elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of liberalism, attempts to build a Utopian liberal society in America have only led to heightened outbreaks of AIDS, VD, porno-related crime, social divisions, divorce, abortion, drug addictions, deficit spending, the welfare state, a crushing tax burden, the breakdown of the family unit, moral depravity, and numerous other such scourges which have resulted in enormous societal suffering and discontent. As a result, liberal fundamentalism is strongly associated with left-wing fanaticism, reverse-racism, anti-intellectualism, elitism, nihilism, godlessness, and societal violence."

Meant to be a joke I hope.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
It is when the government does it. I guarantee you if the school broadcast a Muslim prayer the Christians would quickly understand.


Very informative. Thanks for posting.

They can't seem to substitute their religion for another when filling the blank in "A ______ should be able to have their prayers heard at public events.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
If you want to talk about Bronze Age morality, then liberals should look in the mirror, and reflect on their Bronze Age Sodom and Gomorrah mentality. And all the other morally-repugnant behaviors and/or beliefs they engage in also, like the wholesale slaughter of the innocents - shades of the Canaanites.

Liberals are arrogant, overfed, haughty, and neglect the poor and needy?
 
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