Is God Aware of Being God?

[Sunstone]

Assuming god exists, are there any reasonable grounds on which god can be said to have self-awareness. i.e. consciousness? If so, what are those grounds? If not, why not?

 

[Kirran]

Well, I personally believe that God is everything, and impersonal. This means that both mouldy cornflakes and myself are God, and as well as being part of God, encompass the totality of God. So if I'm aware of being God, then yes, God is self-aware.

 

[chinu]

Assuming god exists, are there any reasonable grounds on which god can be said to have self-awareness. i.e. consciousness? If so, what are those grounds? If not, why not?

Ground is.. "Sunstone isn't aware of God"

Isn't that the enough of Ground ?

 

[Sunstone]

Well, I personally believe that God is everything, and impersonal. This means that both mouldy cornflakes and myself are God, and as well as being part of God, encompass the totality of God. So if I'm aware of being God, then yes, God is self-aware.

Someone once told me that we humans exist so that god can be self-aware. Interesting idea, no?

 

[mainliner]

Assuming god exists, are there any reasonable grounds on which god can be said to have self-awareness. i.e. consciousness? If so, what are those grounds? If not, why not?

before flesh ..... No
the moment of first breath .... Yes

 

[Kirran]

Someone once told me that we humans exist so that god can be self-aware. Interesting idea, no?

That's good stuff. However, there'd have to be some sense of purpose prior to the emergence of that self-awareness for humans to be created with that purpose, meaning God/the universe would need to have an instinct towards developing self-awareness. Maybe this was so.

Reminds me of the theory that Gaia created humans so they could move to other worlds and terraform them, thus acting as her reproductive mechanism.

 

[Sunstone]

...meaning God/the universe would need to have an instinct towards developing self-awareness.

Agreed. But, taking the intentionality out of it, self-awareness in that sense could be the outcome of purposeless evolution. An accident, so to speak. Or, put differently, god becomes self-aware through humans via an accident of evolution. Lots of possibilities, but nothing close to knowing.

 

[Kirran]

Agreed. But, taking the intentionality out of it, self-awareness in that sense could be the outcome of purposeless evolution. An accident, so to speak. Or, put differently, god becomes self-aware through humans via an accident of evolution.

True, but then why is it that humans exist so that God can be self-aware?

Outside of that, I guess I agree with it.

Lots of possibilities, but nothing close to knowing.

Of course not, but that's why it's interesting to talk about.

 

[Sunstone]

...but that's why it's interesting to talk about.

This is off-topic, but you might enjoy this. Suppose the universe came first, then god arose a few nanoseconds later as an emergent property of it?

Well, as long as we're supposing that, suppose further that self-awareness then arose as an emergent property of god?

I think these questions might lead us to safely conclude I've been drinking too much coffee again.

 

[Kirran]

This is off-topic, but you might enjoy this. Suppose the universe came first, then god arose a few nanoseconds later as an emergent property of it?

Well, as long as we're supposing that, suppose further that self-awareness then arose as an emergent property of god?

I did enjoy it.

What's the next step, after self-awareness?

I think these questions might lead us to safely conclude I've been drinking too much coffee again.

Ah man, I remember those days. Eventually developed Raynaud's Syndrome, so had to cut back. These things happen.

 

[Kolibri]

This verse would have us believe he is self-aware:

"You are my witnesses," declares Jehovah,
"Yes, my servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and have faith in me (or "and trust me.")
And understand that I am the same One.
Before me no God was formed,
And after me there has been none."
- Isaiah 43:10

 

[Kirran]

This verse would have us believe he is self-aware:

"You are my witnesses," declares Jehovah,
"Yes, my servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and have faith in me (or "and trust me.")
And understand that I am the same One.
Before me no God was formed,
And after me there has been none."
- Isaiah 43:10

Does 'before me' imply that God began existing at a certain point?

 

[viole]

This is off-topic, but you might enjoy this. Suppose the universe came first, then god arose a few nanoseconds later as an emergent property of it?

Well, as long as we're supposing that, suppose further that self-awareness then arose as an emergent property of god?

I think these questions might lead us to safely conclude I've been drinking too much coffee again.

I strongly doubt it was coffee.

Ciao

- viole

 

[JRMcC]

All I can say is maybe not. Any further speculation would be silly.

 

[Kirran]

All I can say is maybe not. Any further speculation would be silly.

I think of it as more of an intellectual exercise.

 

[Blackmarch]

Assuming god exists, are there any reasonable grounds on which god can be said to have self-awareness. i.e. consciousness? If so, what are those grounds? If not, why not?

if one believes the bible, the "I am that I am" is pretty good statement for that.

 

[Father Heathen]

Assuming god exists, are there any reasonable grounds on which god can be said to have self-awareness. i.e. consciousness? If so, what are those grounds? If not, why not?

I've once heard a pantheist discribe life as the universe (god) experiencing itself.

 

[JRMcC]

I've once heard a pantheist discribe life as the universe (god) experiencing itself.

I heard my hardcore atheist cousin explain it that way too. That's kind of similar to my view as well.

 

[Kirran]

I've once heard a pantheist discribe life as the universe (god) experiencing itself.

Can it be said that all life 'experiences' anything, in any meaningful way? A bacterium? A fungus?

Not that I'm disagreeing with the general principle.

 

[JRMcC]

Can it be said that all life 'experiences' anything, in any meaningful way? A bacterium? A fungus?

Not that I'm disagreeing with the general principle.

That sounds like a question that might be answered long after we're dead.