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Is God responsible for suffering?

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LoverofJah4ever

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dyanaprajna2011 said:
God is perfection, and made everything perfect. God is good, and didn't create evil. Man brought imperfection, man brought evil, man destroyed god's creation.

These are weird arguments. It seems that in order to take god out of the equation of man's suffering and evil, man is given pretty much as much power as god. This doesn't answer the question, it asks a whole host of new ones.
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Satan was the mastermind behind the rebellion. By cunningly deceiving Eve, and using her to influence Adam, who was not deceived, he was able to challenge God in a way that he knew God would have to address. Basically, their disobedience stated that they didn't want to follow God's commands and wanted to decide matters for themselves, so he let them make that choice. The Bible clearly tells us that Adam was not deceived, so he knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences would be and he did it anyway.
 
dyanaprajna2011

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
LoverofJah4ever said:
Satan was the mastermind behind the rebellion. By cunningly deceiving Eve, and using her to influence Adam, who was not deceived, he was able to challenge God in a way that he knew God would have to address. Basically, their disobedience stated that they didn't want to follow God's commands and wanted to decide matters for themselves, so he let them make that choice. The Bible clearly tells us that Adam was not deceived, so he knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences would be and he did it anyway.
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Ok, but where did Satan get the inclination to defy God in the first place? Where did Adam get the idea to deliberately disobey God? If God made everything perfect and good, these things should not have happened.
 
Falvlun

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
LoverofJah4ever said:
Satan was the mastermind behind the rebellion. By cunningly deceiving Eve, and using her to influence Adam, who was not deceived, he was able to challenge God in a way that he knew God would have to address. Basically, their disobedience stated that they didn't want to follow God's commands and wanted to decide matters for themselves, so he let them make that choice. The Bible clearly tells us that Adam was not deceived, so he knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences would be and he did it anyway.
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If Eve was decieved, how can that be taken as a statement of purposeful rejection of God's commands?
 
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