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Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Then you do not believe that Moses actually saw God of the Judaic kind? What about Mary, Mother Of Jesus? Did she get the seed from God or did she just get knocked up by someone other than her husband Joseph?
You honestly beleive God impregnated a woman? I just cannot understand this part of your faith.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Respectfully, I disagree. Insulation harbors the negatives views and stereotypes, but when those who hold said views are put into real life situations with gay people, unwittingly, they will often change their tune based on their new experience.

That's true. I think homophobes should receive aversion therapy for their illness, make them spend some quality time with gays. ;)
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Please do not advocate that its safe for men to consume estrogen at will (like the priests who take them to tamper their libidos). There are no specific studies about estrogen conversion of sexual orientation. Why? Again, read that article about Bruce Jenner's orientation after transitioning. If you don't believe them, contact them for the names of some of the doctors so you can ask them yourself. This topic is taboo because gay reparative therapy is not supposed to work, and because it hurts both gays and trans. Again, my main concern is that it's being given to gays without their knowledge or consent. Ignorance in this case is not bliss, it is dangerous.

Bruce Jenners Sexual Orientation Uncertain After Cross Hormone Therapy

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Do you have an article that's not from a tabloid site?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
There are no more credible sources, because Bruce Jenner's transition still shocks, because few will talk about it. Take it for what it is. Please don't make it seem like you want more than you can get. Are you taking estrogen and a man? If so, do you find it calms you or makes you for metro-sexual?

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POE.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
Then you do not believe that Moses actually saw God of the Judaic kind? What about Mary, Mother Of Jesus? Did she get the seed from God or did she just get knocked up by someone other than her husband Joseph?

Moses did not see our Creator. Mary didn't see our Creator. Jesus didn't see our Creator nor has anyone else.
 

chevron1

Active Member
Moses did not see our Creator. Mary didn't see our Creator. Jesus didn't see our Creator nor has anyone else.


Exodus 33:11 - The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
Exodus 33:11 - The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.

Face to face is a metaphor. When you read the prophecies literally, you will be deceived.


John 5
37: And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness to me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen;
 

chevron1

Active Member
When you read the prophecies literally, you will be deceived.

That's a great concern, isn't it? Were ANY of the MIRACLES literally miraculous? When Moses parted the Red Sea, was it really the Red Sea or was it a marsh (as some have said)? In the movie The Ten Commandments, Charleton Heston literally parts the real Red Sea. He did not lead the people through a marsh. When Jesus made blind men see and raised Lazarus from the dead, were they really blind and was Lazarus really dead?

Without the miracles, is there a God? Can there be a god?
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
That's a great concern, isn't it? Were ANY of the MIRACLES literally miraculous? When Moses parted the Red Sea, was it really the Red Sea or was it a marsh (as some have said)? In the movie The Ten Commandments, Charleton Heston literally parts the real Red Sea. He did not lead the people through a marsh. When Jesus made blind men see and raised Lazarus from the dead, were they really blind and was Lazarus really dead?

Without the miracles, is there a God? Can there be a god?

A question that deserve a response; YES.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
That's a great concern, isn't it? Were ANY of the MIRACLES literally miraculous? When Moses parted the Red Sea, was it really the Red Sea or was it a marsh (as some have said)? In the movie The Ten Commandments, Charleton Heston literally parts the real Red Sea. He did not lead the people through a marsh. When Jesus made blind men see and raised Lazarus from the dead, were they really blind and was Lazarus really dead?

Without the miracles, is there a God? Can there be a god?

Miracles are only performed by God and witnessed by prophets, saints and believers as a way to trust in Him. Once we get to know that God is in total control of everything, then He can use us for His purpose to share knowledge about the future, past and present. Knowledge about how we were created and how we'll live in the next age are way more important than miracles.
 

chevron1

Active Member
Knowledge about how we were created and how we'll live in the next age are way more important than miracles.

For many Christians, if there are no miracles that cannot be explained through ordinary meaning and were not witnessed by ordinary people, then there is no God. The miracles are necessary to prove to everyone that God really is God.
 

thevoiceofgod

Active Member
For many Christians, if there are no miracles that cannot be explained through ordinary meaning and were not witnessed by ordinary people, then there is no God. The miracles are necessary to prove to everyone that God really is God.

Have you ever witnessed a miracle, which is something that happened from your perspective that you couldn't explain?
 

chevron1

Active Member
Have you ever witnessed a miracle, which is something that happened from your perspective that you couldn't explain?

I am a Taoist, not a Christian. Taoists follow the flow. The religion explains everything as transformation, but Taoists follow the flow.
 
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