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is ISCON monotheistic Movement/cult/religion ?

Vedic

Member
According to ISKCON's official website:

The mission of this nonsectarian, monotheistic movement is to promote the well being of society by teaching the science of Krishna consciousness according to Bhagavad-gita and other ancient scriptures. [1] More specifically, Prabhupada identified the following Seven Purposes of ISKCON:


  1. - To systematically propagate spiritual knowledge to society at large and to educate all people in the techniques of spiritual life in order to check the imbalance of values in life and to achieve real unity and peace in the world.
    - To propagate a consciousness of Krishna (God), as it is revealed in the great scriptures of India, Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam.
    - To bring the members of the Society together with each other and nearer to Krishna, the prime entity, thus developing the idea within the members, and humanity at large, that each soul is part and parcel of the quality of Godhead (Krishna).
    - To teach and encourage the sankirtana movement, congregational chanting of the holy name of God, as revealed in the teachings of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
    - To erect for the members and for society at large a holy place of transcendental pastimes dedicated to the personality of Krishna.
    - To bring the members closer together for the purpose of teaching a simpler, more natural way of life.
    - With a view towards achieving the aforementioned purposes, to publish and distribute periodicals, magazines, books and other writings. [1]

    http://www.religionfacts.com/hare-krishna

 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
Yeah, I'm not quite sure what you're asking, either.

Whether ISKCON is monotheistic or a cult? Or both?
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
It's a religious group based on the Krishna adherence, with an emphasis on /Krisna. Some teachings go against other Hindu groups, hence likely the 'cult' reference you mentioned. My text of the *Bhagavad Gita is endorsed by Iskcon. //

I think that a lot of the criticism is just the usual ''disagreement'' that some people might have with any religious group, that's really what I've noticed, when reading arguments etc.

user Vedic seems to have already answered the OP question

*rather perhaps, I have Swami Prabhupada's 'version'. /ie text, of the Bhagavad Gita, with his explanations as to meaning, etc.
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Achintya Bheda-Abheda Advaita of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is a valid part of Hinduism. Like some other sect, they focus on Lord Krishna and his companion, Srimati Radha Rani, which is perfectly OK. Shaiva will give primacy to Shiva, Shaktas will give primacy to the Mother Goddess. Others may give primacy to Kartikeya or Ganesha. Hindus have no problem with this. After all, they are all our Gods and Goddesses. This is well-explained by the verse by Goswami Tulsi Das:

"Jaki rahi bhavana jaisi, prabhu murat tin taisi dekhi"
(It depends on the inclination of the worshiper, he will see the image of the deity in that very way)
 
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George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
is ISCON monotheistic Movement/cult/religion ?

I see it as a school inside the Hindu University.
 

Fireside_Hindu

Jai Lakshmi Maa
is ISCON monotheistic Movement/cult/religion ?

I see it as a school inside the Hindu University.

This is interesting because I was under the impression that members of ISKCON didn't see themselves or consider themselves Hindu. Are there any Krishna Bhakti on the forum who know?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
This is interesting because I was under the impression that members of ISKCON didn't see themselves or consider themselves Hindu. Are there any Krishna Bhakti on the forum who know?
I understand Hinduism to be an umbrella term for all these different schools originating in ancient Indian religious traditions. To me, Krishna is certainly part of that tradition. It probably comes down to our definition of Hinduism.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
ISKCON in the US was one of the early Hindu sects which began a campaign to use Sanatana Dharma as the term they want to call their "religion" when specifically "religion" was used as the moniker, but they would call their specific sect a Gaudiya branch of Vaishnava school. I want to clarify, they used Sanatana Dharma ("Eternal Truth") if the question was "what religion?" but use "Vaishnava" if asked "what school?" and Gaudiya if asked "what branch?" - there were further subsections that narrow their regionalism as well, but I do not want to bore you.

This campaign to use "Sanatana Dharma" instead of "Hindu" was started by a Sanyasi called Hanumatpresaka Swami (Huber Hutchin Robinson),born January 12, 1948, Guam but who was an American disciple of Prabhupad, this was part of his campaign in the 1970s that was propagated largely targetting a University student as well as professor audience, a specific organization was created to promote this over "Hindu".

I am not ISKCON, but I know this for a fact because I knew H.P. personally, just as I knew many major personalities of Hinduism in America.

Now I want to mention this, because this emphasis and campaign was very pronounced IN THE UNITED STATES but NOT IN INDIA.

Many ISKCON centers in India continued to use Hindu at the time, but this is a GEOGRAPHIC TERM.

Some US devotees were becoming frustrated that the "campaign" was not really expanding beyond the university level. But they were also confused as to Prabhupad's position, that Hindu is geographical and now should be an accepted term in that manner, but Sanatana Dharma was a Cultural term for a culture, and that the "highest culture" is the culture "of service" in that actually one who serves is higher than one that merges because merging can be a form of selfishness, elitism, and suicide.

We are told Prabhupad "said" this or that. He did say, in one interview with a westerner WHO WAS ASKING ABOUT CULTURE that "we are not Hindus". But the fact of the matter is, Prabhupad ALSO said those Aryans forced to conversion as Muslims, those following Dharma, those who are Saiva, Vaishnav, Smarta, Shakta, livung in now Pakistan and Afghanistan and Persia (Iran) and Baluchistan are ALL singular and geographically a religion of the area of the Sindhu River, and those broadly beyond the Sind as being Hindu, which is a term that became known as the people who lived when various invasions came and used the term Hindu to define the peoples of the greater Sindhu. Honestly, Prabhupad didn't have a big "issue" with Hindu, this is largely over exaggerated by the campaign that really came from Americans to use Sanatana Dharma but Prabhupad saw a difference that was geographical terms and cultural definitions.

It has been over exaggerated. I am telling you the truth. Also, Prahbupad did not totally dismiss some British and non-Indian theories such as the origins of "Hindu" even though it mat be questioned today as not 100 percent reliable but was broadly accepted in the 1950s and 60s,

The ISKCON sect has roots to the sects associated with Lord Chaitanya, who had taught that in the current "age" that Vedic prescriptions of varnashrama are obscured, and some aspects impossible when leaders are corrupt and the world full of invasions and this included Caitanya's and others defiance of Muslim hegemony at that time. Therefore, since CULTURE also has a "hierarchy" the higest value is SERVICE to the Lord, and the best most successful way to counter those who forbid others their natural inclinations is the public chanting of the Holy Names. This is the best in this age, but also will work IN ANY AGE even during Vedic times, any time.

In the Kali Age, it is best to offer all your fruits to God, rather than serve a "leader" or a "caste" or a "sect" or a "politician" or a "job" or even a "family". This was the main focus of the sect of Prabhupad, and yes it was absolutely Krishna centric. This was because Krishna was seen as raised by non-Brahmins, was a Sudra, was a Vaishya, was a Kshatriya, then was a Brahmin all in "one leela" and thus Krishna will take even a flower from ANYONE who offers without exception. And the Love of Krishna was a simple "peasant cow girl".

It isn't that complicated. It is one sect in the broader family of "Hinduism". Hindu might be a "modern term", even if so it simply means the "Family" of ALL the sects.

In the end, the campaign to push only the use of Sanatana Dharma became a big deal to some American devotees, much less so in India. They had good intentions, and had an element of success, other sects also took it on - I AM NOT saying it was a term made up by westerners, it IS a Indian-Sanskrit-et all authorative use. Some westeners took it much to heart and might have even been a bit "too extreme" about NOT using Hindu. But in fact, Prabhupad's supposed opposition to using Hinduism is exaggerated - he did use it, in fact he even at times called Buddhists as Hindus and got angry once when sume newspaper article implied he was a new religion that is not Hindu. He said it was Hindu.

ISKCON is not monotheistic in the sense that Gods and Demigods and Demons do not exist. They do exist. But in the age, it is the time of Krishna devotion as all focus. Not all sects agree. Not within even Vaishnava. And believe it or not, not even within all sects of Gaudiya.

None of this really matters as far as I am concerned - my positiun is ALL HINDUS OR WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO USE FOR THE FAMILY MUST BE UNITED IN THESE DANGEROUS TIMES. We cannot afford to shun another Hindu based on caste or some selfish reason, nor on geography or wealth or anything. Because if we do, we will lose everything. United we stand, divided we fall.
 
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निताइ dasa

Nitai's servant's servant
ISKCON is essentially a preaching movement which is there to preach the teachings of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and the respective acintya bhedabheda tattva as propounded by the Goswamis, to a western world. This is much is written in the 7 purposes you have posted.

In terms of philosophy, ISKCON siddhanta (as HDG Srila Prabhupada established it) is identical to the Siddhanta of Gaudiya Math and hence Gaudiya Vaishnavism (generally). The acintya bhedabheda philosophy of Lord Chaitanya, is an authoritative commentary on the Vedanta, and hence is accepted as an authentic school. It in mono-theistic in that it accepts Sri Sri Radha Krsna (and other Visnu tattvas) as the absolute Truth and topmost goal of the souls. Though it accepts the existence of demigods, their worship is considered material (corresponding to the kama, artha and dharma) while only the worship of Sri Hari can grant Moksha (and more importantly Krsna Prema). Nitai!
 

ratikala

Istha gosthi
namaskaram Vedic ji

is ISKCON monotheistic Movement/cult/religion ?

what more can I say that has not been said , ...?

as the title it self suggests , ...it is a society , ..for the promotion of Krsna Consciousness , ....in some respects it now takes variuus forms and there are minute differnces in empasiss between Gurus and individual temples , ....but Yes it esentialy monotheistic in that it teachings focus on the realisation of the one supreme personality of Godhead , ...but as all Gaudiyas consider our selves to be incapable of directly realising the supreme in his fullness without the mercy of Guru and Gauranga , ...we place great importance upon the teachings of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and upon the Guru parampara decending in line from the Panchatattva (Chaitanya and his associates) , ...

if you were to call it a cult it would be a Bhakti Cult ,(Loving devotion) ...due to the empasis placed opon Congregational Chanting and upon Seva , ..and upon the high level of renunciation where material life is concerned , ....

interestingly enough I prefer to use the term Sanatana Dharma rather than Hindu but that does not as some suggest mean that it is rejected but simply that the title 'Sanatana Dharma' is in it self extemely poingient and more descriptive than any ''ism'' , ...Sanatana dharma as translated By our Guru translates as Eternal religious principles , ....thus stresses the necessity to uphold the laws by which both the material and spiritual worlds are regulated and maintained , (thus supported), ....... to me in particular these principles are of paramount importance , ...as without them we can hardly consider ourselves to be human , thus to some an Iskcon devotee may seem to be deeply absorbed , there for some have leveled the criticism of it being an allmost Cult like movement (in the modern usage of the word) , ...but in truth this absorbtion is just due to the higer level of devotion and commitment , ....

what more gan I say , ...

jai , .. Nityananda bol Hai bol hari bol , ...
 
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